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Old 20-02-2018, 03:29   #16
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I still have my childhood slingshot and 10.000+ pebbles are easy to find. Does that count??



Do you declare it.. or do you have a special hidey hole for it for clearing into countries.???
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Scientists Know How You’ll Respond to Nuclear War—and They Have a Plan

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We don't call it "prepping", we're stocking up for long term cruising. People look at you less weird that way.

I'm setting up the boat to be 90% self sustainable and have good storage. In a EOTW situation it would give us options, and that's the best you can hope for.

In almost all EOTW scenarios your biggest long term threat are other people (after the immediate effects of the incident)
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Old 20-02-2018, 04:29   #19
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In almost all EOTW scenarios your biggest long term threat are other people (after the immediate effects of the incident)
I guess after a few weeks this threat becomes less and less a concern. Except for the Zombie scenario.

Are Zombies capable of swimming? Do they walk on the sea bottom without drowning ? Do they float on the surface once rotting of their interior body parts start?
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[QUOTE=rabbi;2581344]What scenario do you prep for? And which scenario has acceptable solutions?


Natural desaster: Living in Florida, we are always watchful and as ready as possible for a hurrince in season.

Civil unrest: Ditto, stay away from crowded areas


Large scale nuclear pollution, possibly caused by a terrorist attac on a nuclear power plant or a dirty bomb. Just don't live anywhere near a potential target. - This one is more difficult than that, fallout can carry a long way. Ultimately difficult to prep for unless you have a REALLY good shelter.

Aliens, Zombies & Vampires: Lol, what aliens ? Fermis's Paradox

Global incidents like an Armageddon style meteor impact, or 2012 style seismic activity: Nothing we can do. - Pretty much right on the money.


WW3? I'd go to the nearest military base and hope the nuke explodes right on my head.
I certainly don't want to be a survivor of a global nuclear war.
- It is difficult to imagine what life would be like BUT, I would hope life would go on.


Climate change (human made or not doesn't matter): Yep


I would say right at this moment I'm more worried about an EMP strike, simply because it's a possibility, and the effects COULD be very bad. If it happened, I think I would take what belongings I could and sail away. Not sure where and not sure how I would make a living but I wouldn't stay if things were getting bad. And they could.

I like the idea that sailors are prepared.
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I still have my childhood slingshot and 10.000+ pebbles are easy to find. Does that count??

Do you declare it.. or do you have a special hidey hole for it for clearing into countries.???
I hide the boat hook in full view on the deck along with the brush and mop. No one even gives it a second look the camoflage is that good.

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There's a series of books by Colin Drysdale (Outbreak, For Those In Peril On The Sea, and The Island At The End Of The World) that are set on sail boats in a post apocalyptic world.
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I have to say this is interesting. I am working on my next degree and this one is in emergency management. Doing some study right now on the threats of EMP and CME and its certainly sobering. I live a pretty simple life and while things would be awful without power or computers, some folks will make it.

That said, IF I had the ability to outfit our boat as an escape from this sort of attack or hacking of critical infrastructure I would have the following:

-extensive medical kit to include antibiotics
-at least two water makers
-solar set up with good battery bank (extra charge controller in faraday cage)
-lots of freeze dried food and tinned foods
-sextant and the knowledge to use it
-something to defend ourselves with
-HF comm suite stored in a faraday cage also

I'm sure there is much more missing, but seems like a good start. Taking some of these classes and hearing the threat reporting really makes me wonder. Perhaps I will start getting ready for "long term cruising" lol
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My biggest fear would be the 128 million Indonesian moving to Australia ,

I don't like sharing ,,

and so i dont get my wrist slapped again i have left the font small
( if there are spelling mistakes i`m sorry , I cant read text thats 2mm tall )
and what is the driving factor of them moving from Indonesia to Australia?
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We had a situation in Opua NZ where we had bought a house (15 English Bay Road!) during torrential winter rains.

Our neighborhood had a mandatory evacuation for slides (and there were slides) down to the community center. Many folks spent several days there.

We had the cat on a mooring and headed to her. Also several days but safe, warm and comfortable.

In Alaska we keep an RV ready along with towable jeep and a friend with 120 acres far enough away but not too far.

Biggest issues up here, earthquake, loss of natural gas in winter, distribution to supply chain (the city only has 3-5 days of food on hand and forest fire.

Just prudent. I asked only cause I need a kick in the butt to organize everything.

The boat we keep in the Bahamas so thatís a bit of a problem :-)

Oh yea, tip for you guys. Yanmar only makes two types of keys. Get a pair of both just in case ;-)
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and what is the driving factor of them moving from Indonesia to Australia?
Not hard to do that math :-)

Whatís the driving force from Mexico to US?
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What scenario do you prep for? And which scenario has acceptable solutions?


Natural desaster: Living in Florida, we are always watchful and as ready as possible for a hurrince in season.

Civil unrest: Ditto, stay away from crowded areas


Large scale nuclear pollution, possibly caused by a terrorist attac on a nuclear power plant or a dirty bomb. Just don't live anywhere near a potential target. - This one is more difficult than that, fallout can carry a long way. Ultimately difficult to prep for unless you have a REALLY good shelter.

Aliens, Zombies & Vampires: Lol, what aliens ? Fermis's Paradox

Global incidents like an Armageddon style meteor impact, or 2012 style seismic activity: Nothing we can do. - Pretty much right on the money.


WW3? I'd go to the nearest military base and hope the nuke explodes right on my head.
I certainly don't want to be a survivor of a global nuclear war.
- It is difficult to imagine what life would be like BUT, I would hope life would go on.


Climate change (human made or not doesn't matter): Yep


I would say right at this moment I'm more worried about an EMP strike, simply because it's a possibility, and the effects COULD be very bad. If it happened, I think I would take what belongings I could and sail away. Not sure where and not sure how I would make a living but I wouldn't stay if things were getting bad. And they could.

I like the idea that sailors are prepared.
EMP a big one rarely talked about.

Imagine the chaos if just smart phones were zapped over a large geographic area.

People get hungry quick. Stay out of their way.
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EMP a big one rarely talked about.

Imagine the chaos if just smart phones were zapped over a large geographic area.

People get hungry quick. Stay out of their way.
There'd be zombies all over Portugal..
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EMP a big one rarely talked about.

Imagine the chaos if just smart phones were zapped over a large geographic area.

People get hungry quick. Stay out of their way.
emp's are not anything to be concerned with the one to think of would be cme's
They take down the power grid and there is nothing that can really be done to combat them except early detection. But even they are not going to be much of an issue with the decades long solar minimum that is being forecast.
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emp's are not anything to be concerned with the one to think of would be cme's
They take down the power grid and there is nothing that can really be done to combat them except early detection. But even they are not going to be much of an issue with the decades long solar minimum that is being forecast.
I certainly hope so, both EMP and CME are a very dangerous threat to our modern society. The whole JIT supply chain and lack of supplies on hand at any stores nowadays.

I started to listen to the concern for grid security (hacking, emp, cme) when the former director of the cia gave a startling interview.
https://www.forbes.com/sites/chipreg.../#282a10426a25

I figure if it keeps a former director of the cia up at night with concern maybe I better listen. I can only imagine that in that position that he was privy to far more information than the average citizen. It was enough for me to get my backpacking water filter out and checked, buy some more canned food, etc. lol
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