Port Authority will not allow rat traps on docks?

[fstbttms]

Originally Posted by cp1

Wharf = Warehouse at the Riverfront. Duh lol

That is just simply not true. Or maybe you were joking.

[thinwater]

What about humane traps? (They can be release elsewhere with extreme prejudice.)

[P27]

For what it is worth you can buy Fox ,coyote urine at a trapping supply company look in the classified section of outdoor magazines being a trapped when I was a lot younger and trapping was not so frowned upon the urine was strong enough for me to smell it I am not sure how much of that smell you would want around the boat

[zeehag]

to make your preshuss sboat rat tight you need to make sure there is NO ventilation whatsoever.
rats will crawl into any and every opening you have, including the cowl and dorade vents you keep open to prevent molds.
boats have so many you will have a difficulty closing em all. and the mold buildup you will encounter.
is simply not practical to completely shut your boat.
san diego has rats. all ports have rats.
ratshit is against the law to put into water of the cali coast. all poo is illegal . so is urine. so is poison. so is dishwater....
oops.
boost the rock cat population., when there were hundreds of cats there were NO rats.
it was actually pleasant.

[UNCIVILIZED]

WTF is this "humane, pliease don't kill them" business!
They're RATS! They do untold amounts of property damage, spread disease, chew up wiring which results in electrical fires. And vermin literally eat about 10% of the crops grown every year.
So, yeah, quite literally, they eat us out of house & home. And we're supposed to be "nice" to them?

Hell, if a foreign power caused us that much trouble, we'd make them glow in the dark!

I've always loved the insanity of the mindset of those who eat meat, but believe that killing animals, wild or cage raised, is wrong. Guess they can't do the math on how meat gets onto their table. DOH!

I definiitely respect life, all life (mostly), so don't get me wrong. But there has to be a bit of common sense involved in things.
Which yes, I know, in certain locales, it's in much shorter supply than in others.

[rwidman]

Originally Posted by fstbttms

Law? What makes you think the Port District needs a law to restrict any Tom, Dick or Harry from dropping deadly poisons on the docks or in the water? It's seems like common sense to not allow this to happen.

Easy Big Boy, traps don't have to contain poison. Actually, "traps" would not contain poison, they either capture the rat alive or kill it by physical means.

"Poisoned bait" would be a bad idea if placed where children or non-rat animals could possibly get to it.

[rognvald]

There's probably not a cruiser on this forum who has lived aboard for any length of time that doesn't have a rat story. Here's mine: After returning to Florida from the Bahamas in late May, we stopped at a Florida west coast marina to do some repairs and wax our boat. It was a small marina/work yard on the intercoastal that had a few live-aboards but basically did bottom painting for local and transient boats. Late one afternoon, a small houseboat was towed to the T-dock and secured. It was in bad shape and appeared ,to me, to be derelict. We were berthed in a slip on the other side of the T-dock. Later that night, when we returned to the boat, the night watchman told me that just before dark he saw at least 15-20 rats jumping off the houseboat to the dock and running down the dock and jumping on boats. Our boat appeared to be sealed tightly but we were running a CruiseAir AC unit through the main hatch. The next morning, we heard some screaming on the dock and an irate boater was ranting at the marina's management that he had rats on his boat after the houseboat docked. After a short quarrel, the management forced him and his family to immediately leave the marina under threat of police arrest. After that, we checked our boat and noticed that a tomato on the counter had been partially eaten and we knew what had happened. We immediately went to the store and bought two rat traps, paid our bill and left the marina before noon. It took us two days to kill the rat(fortunately only one) with a trap baited with peanut butter. It was huge--about a foot long minus its tail. We determined the rat entered the boat under the canvas cover on the main hatch around the CruiseAir AC unit. After a careful inspection of our boat, it thankfully did no damage during its stay. We were lucky, but most who have this experience have damage as an earlier poster mentioned. My personal belief is that it is impossible to keep a determined rat from entering your boat if they are present. It's just a matter of time. Good luck and safe sailing.

[Beavereater]

Hide these inside of a box with a two inch opening. The choice of professionals.

Bell Laboratories - Products

[avb3]

Originally Posted by Cheechako

The poison kills cats and dogs.

Dogs and cats eat the grain the poison is on?

[sharkbait]

Go down to Tijuana and buy the good rat poison they sell down there,the stuff with strychnine.
Sprinkle it on the dock after dark and don't tell anyone about it.

[Lizzy Belle]

Originally Posted by sharkbait

Sprinkle it on the dock

That should take care of all animals and ets ... and even be dangerous to kids if it doesn't rain off during the night. Great advice.

Also, poison goes way u in the food chain. Again - bad advise.

[sharkbait]

Your children shouldn't be on the dock unsupervised

[Lizzy Belle]

I don't have kids that need supervision, wrong assumption

[Beavereater]

Originally Posted by sharkbait

Go down to Tijuana and buy the good rat poison they sell down there,the stuff with strychnine.
Sprinkle it on the dock after dark and don't tell anyone about it.

To those contemplating using rodenticides for rats, DON'T! Here's why.
1. Dead rat odors coming from an inaccessible locations will make you sorry.
2. Fines for illegal placement of baits will not be fun.
3. Killing a non-target animal will suck. See #2
4. Strychnine bait is unpalatable to rats See #2 & 3

Exclusion and trapping are your best bet. Rats came to America by boat deal with them the right way.

[zeehag]

rats are only one reason cats were made comfortable on ships since man learned of their benefits. they worked. they ate. they ate rat.
critters eat the bait ye use on rats, walk thru the poison then groom selves. they to not eat it as if it were food.
birdees and fishies also get to ingest the poison. not cool.
before the sterilization of ALL san diego rock cats, 2000-2003, there were many. one of my favorite boat cats was the last known offspring of these cats. beautiful. excellent swimmers and hunters. very easily socialized to me, as be chose me.
but his ancestors did very good work. there were no rats even at fishing docks and in tuna basin.
but ye all hated the damnable noisey pesty cats and got rid of them.
too bad. you had a good thing n killed it off n attritioned it off until you scream about the rats.
oh yeah the same poison in the docks n rocks that kills desired critters makes human offspring ill when they play in the sand near the marina.
kids love wet sand n mud. momma wont let tbem go too far. kids, also, as i recall fondly, enjoy playing in the rocks. ok.