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03-03-2014, 06:40
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Senior Cruiser
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Re: Please and thank you
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Originally Posted by denverd0n
Well, if we all want to be really correct, RPP is not an acronym. It is just initials.
An acronym is a set of initials, or abbreviated words, that are pronounced as if they were a word. So, WIFI is an acronym, because most people pronounce it as a word. RPP is not an acronym, because most people just say the initials. IBM and ATT are not acronyms. SCUBA and RADAR are acronyms. And so on.
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Glad you posted this. I thought about it but was resisting.
Nitpickers Sticklers for accuracy of the world.... UNITE!!
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03-03-2014, 07:54
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#17
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Join Date: Nov 2013
Location: Edmonton/PNW
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Re: Please and thank you
Quote:
Originally Posted by denverd0n
Well, if we all want to be really correct, RPP is not an acronym. It is just initials.
An acronym is a set of initials, or abbreviated words, that are pronounced as if they were a word. So, WIFI is an acronym, because most people pronounce it as a word. RPP is not an acronym, because most people just say the initials. IBM and ATT are not acronyms. SCUBA and RADAR are acronyms. And so on.
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Well, to be 100% accurate, they are referred to as initialisms...
initialism - Wiktionary
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03-03-2014, 08:08
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#18
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Moderator
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Re: Please and thank you
You can call them different ways, but what matters - they make a lot of posts unreadable for all not used to them.
Best regards
Tomasz
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03-03-2014, 08:17
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#19
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Senior Cruiser
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Re: Please and thank you
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Originally Posted by Macblaze
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I knew there was a name for this but tried to look it up a few years ago and didn't find it. Now I feel so enlightened.
Regarding complaints about the use of acronyms or initialisms in posts, sometimes it's just a pain to use the full name. Imagine having to write out the National Aeronautics and Space Administration instead of NASA. I don't even use the full name in conversation, forget typing it.
If you see one you don't know, google it or ask the poster. Not terribly difficult.
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Sometimes it's necessary to state the obvious for the benefit of the oblivious.
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03-03-2014, 08:44
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#20
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Re: Please and thank you
Quote:
Originally Posted by Richard5
This forum is all across the board as far as folks from different nations. Often enough there is confusion between manners of speaking. Therefore, I ask that you not use acronyms. Please spell out what you are saying. F'rinstance, in the 'How to make a living while cruising' thread I haven't a clue what RPP means. Thank you for your cooperation and understanding.
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OK the real irony here is I went looking for mention of RPP (because I suspected it meant Registered Pension Plan), but as far as I can tell there is no reference in that thread, or any other...
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03-03-2014, 09:04
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Re: Please and thank you
What I don't like are critical typos (typing mistakes,
for the uninitiated). A common one is where
someone types "not" in place of "now," as in:
"Ajax cleaner is now what I use" when they meant:
"Ajax cleaner is not what I use."
I go out and buy a case of Ajax cleaner based on
that post and miss the retraction many posts
later. (frustration emoticon here)
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03-03-2014, 09:33
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Re: Please and thank you
Oh, No, spelling police. Welcome back!
Their, there
healing, heeling
whether, weather
I could go on and on.
FWIW.
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03-03-2014, 11:10
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#23
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Location: Tampa, FL
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Re: Please and thank you
People who confuse "their," "there," and "they're" don't bother me that much on a cruising forum. But people who repeatedly refer to the "birth" in their boat--not just once, but over and over, so it is clearly not just a typo--make me laugh. Especially when they're trying to give other people advice.
Hey! Guess what? If you don't know enough about boats to know the proper name for a BERTH, then I am surely not going to be stupid enough to take your advice about anything else to do with boats!
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03-03-2014, 11:28
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#24
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Registered User
Join Date: Jul 2010
Location: New Mexico, USA
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Posts: 1,118
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Re: Please and thank you
Wasn't there once a comma error in a document that cost some number of millions of dollars?
As for all the births on board, I'd never realized so many liveaboard midwives were using boats as home offices. Perhaps this is better than having some other professions taking over marinas.
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03-03-2014, 11:55
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Location: Skagit City, WA
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Re: Please and thank you
Quote:
Originally Posted by Doodles
Sure, but "F'rinstance" was a new one to me and could be confusing for many. What's wrong with plain old "for instance"? Your contraction did not even save one character, so what's the point?
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he point is it IS character!
Frinstance: leeward or lourd?
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03-03-2014, 12:11
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Location: Port Credit, Ontario or Bahamas
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Re: Please and thank you
I can live with the poor speeling however, the routine incorrect use of "electrolysis", "stray current" and "zincs", by those offering electrical advice drives me nuts.
We do have one member on this forum whom I have given up trying to comprehend as I am pretty sure she just makes up words as she types.
and I do know when people say "salon" they actually mean "saloon"
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03-03-2014, 12:27
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Location: South of 43 S, Australia
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Re: Please and thank you
Quote:
Originally Posted by Stu Jackson
Oh, No, spelling police. Welcome back!
Their, there
healing, heeling
whether, weather
I could go on and on.
FWIW.
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Please do
Let me add:
Wether (although a correct pronunciation of these word is subtlety different to weather etc)
to, too, two
@ the OP, do you also rail against abbreviations like etc. i.e. e.g. n.b. and so on?
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03-03-2014, 12:37
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#28
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Location: Northern NSW.Australia
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Posts: 9,549
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Re: Please and thank you
Two of my pet hates. Your instead of you're,, ie "your going to die."
A classified "add". In the past two years all of a sudden an "ad", yes I know it is an abreviation, has developed a second d. Is it then an addvert that it is short for?
Coops.
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03-03-2014, 12:41
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#29
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Re: Please and thank you
For the native English speakers among us who do not read or speak another language, just consider how difficult it would be to piece out French strewn with even the common abbreviations for phrases, like FWIW [for what it's worth], or AFAIK [as far as I know], for instance. Of course the non native English speaker can go look it up, but that detracts from the pleasures of reading your posts. Might it be a courtesy to just write out what you mean? Too much of an imposition? Really?
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03-03-2014, 12:41
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Moderator and Certifiable Refitter
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Location: South of 43 S, Australia
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Re: Please and thank you
Quote:
Originally Posted by Coops
Two of my pet hates. Your instead of you're,, ie "your going to die."
A classified "add". In the past two years all of a sudden an "ad", yes I know it is an abreviation, has developed a second d. Is it then an addvert that it is short for?
Coops.
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Ah but "your's is going to die" is quite okay (in context)
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