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21-02-2011, 01:26
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Registered User
Join Date: Jul 2008
Location: Melbourne Australia
Boat: saga kan walker 31ft
Posts: 545
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PFDs and Tenders
Im out of pocket $60 per person due to using my tender to get from dock to the mooring as I can chain my tender but have know ware to put PFDs and at $100 each not cheep to replace.
The revenue raiser is correct Marine Safety Victoria - Personal Flotation Devices
so yes I have committed a crime but Im not chucking away money on Pfds, what do others do?
I cant hide them in my zodiac
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21-02-2011, 03:51
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Registered User
Join Date: Oct 2010
Posts: 679
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Re: PFD and tenders
Take them with you? (if they're not too heavy )
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21-02-2011, 04:14
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Registered User
Join Date: Dec 2006
Location: Seattle
Boat: Cal 40 (sold). Still have a Hobie 20
Posts: 2,974
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Re: PFD and tenders
Get some type II yoke ones just for the dink. Don't know about Australia, but U.S. prices are running about $8 each. I believe I've seen them for as low as $5 each on sale. And they're not very popular so less likely to be stolen.
Like this:
Cabela's: Cabela's Type-II Boating Vests
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21-02-2011, 05:59
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Writing Full-Time Since 2014
Join Date: Nov 2008
Location: Deale, MD
Boat: PDQ Altair, 32/34
Posts: 10,244
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Re: PFD and tenders
Quote:
Originally Posted by cal40john
Get some type II yoke ones just for the dink. Don't know about Australia, but U.S. prices are running about $8 each. I believe I've seen them for as low as $5 each on sale. And they're not very popular so less likely to be stolen.
Like this:
Cabela's: Cabela's Type-II Boating Vests
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Exactly. You'd be nuts to keep the nice ones in the tender. Yesterday I helped a friend un-ground by running out an anchor; a cheap PFD padded the bottom against his plow. Sure wouldn't use an inflatable for that.
Leaving them mildewed helps too .
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21-02-2011, 06:20
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Registered User
Join Date: Nov 2009
Location: Between Block Island and Bahamas
Boat: Marine Trader 40' Sedan Trawler, 1978. WATER TORTURE
Posts: 715
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Re: PDF and tenders
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21-02-2011, 06:31
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Registered User
Join Date: Aug 2010
Location: NSW Australia
Boat: Traditional 30
Posts: 1,980
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Re: PFD and tenders
Quote:
Originally Posted by sctpc
Im out of pocket $60 per person due to using my tender to get from dock to the mooring as I can chain my tender but have know ware to put PFDs and at $100 each not cheep to replace.
The revenue raiser is correct Marine Safety Victoria - Personal Flotation Devices
so yes I have committed a crime but Im not chucking away money on Pfds, what do others do?
I cant hide them in my zodiac
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Thats crazy.. I am really struggling to think of any deaths involving a tender going from shore to mooring. The risk is so small that it is negligable. If they continue being this stupid they will want Epirbs next.
Cheers
Oz
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21-02-2011, 06:45
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Long Range Cruiser
Join Date: Dec 2007
Location: Australian living on "Sea Life" currently in England.
Boat: Beneteau 393 "Sea Life"
Posts: 12,820
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Re: PFD and tenders
I have an inflatable PFD (Type 1) thats the type used on aircraft and they are in a small pouch the size of a womans SMALL handbag.
It fits neatly into a small plastic box I have in the dink that holds the torch.
The box is about 12 inches long and 6 inches wide.
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21-02-2011, 14:05
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Registered User
Join Date: May 2009
Location: Lorient, Brittany, France
Boat: Gib'Sea 302, 30' - Hydra
Posts: 1,245
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Re: PFD and tenders
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Originally Posted by ozskipper
Thats crazy.. I am really struggling to think of any deaths involving a tender going from shore to mooring. The risk is so small that it is negligable.
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Here in Brittany, stories about drowned professional fishermen were frequent in the newspapers before PFD were made compulsory in tenders.
In winter, the water temp is about 10°C / 50°F. Oilies and seaboots didn't help for swimming
Alain
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21-02-2011, 15:14
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Registered User
Join Date: Nov 2010
Location: Jacksonville Florida
Boat: 1972 Tartan 34C Fleur De Mer
Posts: 141
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Re: PFDs and Tenders
I use an inflatable one from west marine and always wear it in the dink and when I get to shore it goes with me either in a back pack or I stow it. I used to put it in the dink untill carelessly I tossed it in and there was six inches of water, needless to say it inflated right away. haha
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21-02-2011, 15:49
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Registered User
Join Date: Aug 2010
Location: NSW Australia
Boat: Traditional 30
Posts: 1,980
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Re: PFD and tenders
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Originally Posted by Hydra
Here in Brittany, stories about drowned professional fishermen were frequent in the newspapers before PFD were made compulsory in tenders.
In winter, the water temp is about 10°C / 50°F. Oilies and seaboots didn't help for swimming
Alain
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So its a geographical issue then, colder places perhaps should legislate for it ( I didnt think of that). In warmer climates I would still like to know how many deaths in tenders there has been.
Cheers
Oz
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21-02-2011, 16:13
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Writing Full-Time Since 2014
Join Date: Nov 2008
Location: Deale, MD
Boat: PDQ Altair, 32/34
Posts: 10,244
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Re: PFD and tenders
Quote:
Originally Posted by ozskipper
So its a geographical issue then, colder places perhaps should legislate for it ( I didnt think of that). In warmer climates I would still like to know how many deaths in tenders there has been.
Cheers
Oz
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Ozskipper
For your enjoyment:
http://sail-delmarva.blogspot.com/2010/03/are-you-captain-safety.html
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21-02-2011, 16:18
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Registered User
Join Date: Jun 2009
Location: Oromocto, New Brunswick
Boat: 1976 Alberg 37 Yawl hull 172
Posts: 395
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Re: PFDs and Tenders
You must have something on the tender you could lock them to, a fitting for you dockline or anchor. I would run a cable-type bicycle lock through the PFD's & lock them to the tender. I'd still use the cheapo ones though!
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21-02-2011, 16:31
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Registered User
Join Date: Oct 2005
Posts: 6,185
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Re: PFDs and Tenders
I've seen several people lose it on beach landings in surf so it's no joke to keep a PFD on at least if there are waves or a heavily loaded vessel. If I'm doing anything serious I just have my harness/auto PFD on.
However we keep two regular TYPE II's on board stuffed in the bow under a seat. Easy to get at, out of the sun, and the space isn't usable otherwise. Works well. All of our PFD's have the vessels name written on them in block letters like the commercial style of doing it.
I haven't seen anyone steal these type of PFD's.
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21-02-2011, 17:08
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Registered User
Join Date: Apr 2009
Location: Vashon, WA
Boat: Haida 26', 18' Sea Kayak, 15' kayak, 6.5' skiff, shorts
Posts: 837
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Re: PFDs and Tenders
I pretty much only buy the silly orange cheapies. I never wear a PFD. I know some will naysay, but it is really unnecessary. Kayaking? Sure. Small dinghy in a big ocean? Okay.
Dinghy in a protected anchorage? Unnecessary.
While sailing solo?
You lose the boat, you're toast, it's that simple.
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21-02-2011, 18:04
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CF Adviser
Join Date: Dec 2008
Location: sausalito
Boat: 14 meter sloop
Posts: 7,260
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Re: PFDs and Tenders
use duct tape.
most dinks have a thwart seat used for rowing. on mine, two of those orange cheapie PFDs will fit neatly beneath the seat, and a single round of duct tape on each one will keep them there.
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