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11-10-2017, 13:35
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Registered User
Join Date: Dec 2006
Location: Cruising
Boat: Privilege 39 Catamaran, Exit Only
Posts: 2,723
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Passwords In A Paperless World
How are people storing passwords who are out cruising?
I don't think storing passwords on digital devices is a great idea because if the device is somehow hacked, all the passwords could be stolen.
I am uncomfortable with writing them down on paper and leaving them on the yacht.
The best thing I have been able to come up with is to have one book with the account log ins, and a separate book that has the passwords for those accounts set up in a way that nobody would think that the two books are related in any way.
Maybe I am overlooking a simpler and more secure way of storing passwords.
What are people doing to keep their passwords secure while out cruising? Where do they store those passwords?
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11-10-2017, 13:41
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Registered User
Join Date: May 2014
Location: Key West, FL
Boat: Morgan Out Island 415
Posts: 914
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Re: Passwords In A Paperless World
I just email the NSA or CIA and have them send over my latest passwords.
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11-10-2017, 14:03
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Registered User
Join Date: Dec 2006
Location: Cruising
Boat: Privilege 39 Catamaran, Exit Only
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Re: Passwords In A Paperless World
You are a genius. Why didn't I think of that!
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11-10-2017, 14:19
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cruiser
Join Date: Nov 2007
Location: Probably in an anchorage or a boatyard..
Boat: Ebbtide 33' steel cutter
Posts: 5,030
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Re: Passwords In A Paperless World
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Originally Posted by maxingout
What are people doing to keep their passwords secure while out cruising? Where do they store those passwords?
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I use evernote, well , for everything and anything I might need to know in the future. Password protected to get into in the first place then you can encrypt text with another password then I have the actual passwords a bit cryptic, which sometimes means a bit of head scratching even for me to figure out so reckon it's pretty secure 
Then quick to do a search and find them again.
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11-10-2017, 14:19
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Registered User
Join Date: Aug 2011
Location: Petersburg, AK
Boat: Outremer 50S
Posts: 4,229
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Re: Passwords In A Paperless World
Personally, I use a local password manager. Don't trust online password managers, they will (already have been in some cases) get hacked.
For me, I use KeePass. Installed and operated from a USB thumb drive. Backed up to separate device regularly. You can use a master password to open the database, or a separate key file, or both. I use both, the key file is a JPG buried in my photo albums (and also backed up on separate devices).
It's a pain in the a.. but better than having passwords for someone to find. Also use two-factor authentication wherever I can, usually if we have internet to do the banking (or whatever) we also have the ability to get a token from the bank.
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11-10-2017, 14:46
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Join Date: Apr 2006
Posts: 15,136
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Re: Passwords In A Paperless World
I leave password HINTS in plain sight. Sometimes even right on a keyboard. But you'd have to be one damned fine tea-leaf-gazer to figure out what the password is from looking at the hint.
For instance, the hint might say "Mary had a little" Is the password LAMB? Or maybe, it is MARCH, which comes in like a lamb. Or, LION, because that's how March goes out. Wait, maybe that's all wrong and I'm thinking Jim Morrison and Mary had a little, just didn't she? And the password is LIZARD KING.
Really, get creative with your hints. Get twisted with them. And then you can write them down in plain sight. CONAN DOYLE. ERCULE POIROT. FLYING TOASTERS.
The fact that you're on a boat and not in an office doesn't change anything.
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11-10-2017, 14:53
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Join Date: Aug 2003
Boat: Dragonfly 1000 trimaran
Posts: 7,277
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Re: Passwords In A Paperless World
Imho, your HIN makes a decent password.
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11-10-2017, 15:10
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CLOD
Join Date: Jul 2007
Location: being planted in Jacksonville Fl
Boat: none
Posts: 20,835
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Re: Passwords In A Paperless World
Quote:
Originally Posted by senormechanico
Imho, your HIN makes a decent password.
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and what do you do when the site requires capital letters and special characters
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11-10-2017, 15:13
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Registered User
Join Date: Aug 2011
Location: Petersburg, AK
Boat: Outremer 50S
Posts: 4,229
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Re: Passwords In A Paperless World
One other thing, passwords really shouldn't be pass words - they should be pass phrases. Length is your friend. No less than the person who wrote the NIST standards on passwords and complexity recently apologized publicly and said that complexity (special characters, numbers, etc.) in a short password was not the right way to go, length was the key.
Think "The qu!ck br0wn Fox jumped over the lazy dog"
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11-10-2017, 15:22
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Registered User
Join Date: Jan 2016
Location: DFW
Boat: wanting a cat
Posts: 509
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Re: Passwords In A Paperless World
Store them on your phone...
meatservo
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11-10-2017, 15:26
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Registered User
Join Date: Oct 2010
Location: TX
Boat: Whitby 42
Posts: 348
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Re: Passwords In A Paperless World
My wife has a list of password 'hints'. Problem is, she is the only one able to figure them out. If she dies before me, I'm in a heap of trouble.
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11-10-2017, 15:45
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cruiser
Join Date: Jan 2017
Boat: Retired from CF
Posts: 13,317
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Re: Passwords In A Paperless World
LastPass app, sync'd on all devices.
I have many thousands of sites / apps / services stored from over the last ten years, each with a unique password that looks like
@y2lKEVKjck978$PW0J@l3M^006tpgGXh
Which it generates for you automatically.
Only need to remember your one master password, which should be a very good one 8-)
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11-10-2017, 15:53
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Registered User
Join Date: May 2013
Location: St. John, USVI
Boat: 2003 Beneteau 423
Posts: 595
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Re: Passwords In A Paperless World
Like Dsanduril, I use a password manager. For me, 1password works well, has cloud storage and syncs to my devices.
Cheers, RickG
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11-10-2017, 16:01
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Registered User
Join Date: Feb 2013
Location: Bumping around the Caribbean
Boat: Valiant 40
Posts: 4,625
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Re: Passwords In A Paperless World
I have two algorithms for all of my passwords. One is for passwords I don't change often or at all, the other for those I change monthly (finances, email, identity stuff). It's easier for me than storing them somewhere with cryptic hints.
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11-10-2017, 16:31
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Registered User
Join Date: Dec 2010
Location: W Carib
Boat: Wildcat 35, Hobie 33
Posts: 13,500
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Re: Passwords In A Paperless World
Quote:
Originally Posted by Dsanduril
One other thing, passwords really shouldn't be pass words - they should be pass phrases. Length is your friend. No less than the person who wrote the NIST standards on passwords and complexity recently apologized publicly and said that complexity (special characters, numbers, etc.) in a short password was not the right way to go, length was the key.
Think "The qu!ck br0wn Fox jumped over the lazy dog" 
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Yes, complex passwords are self defeating I think, because how people remember them...they write them down! Totally defeating the purpose.
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