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Old 28-09-2017, 01:03   #1
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Need contact to an english speaking marine surveyor in Toulon / Frannce

Hi there.

could someone recommend a marine surveyor / company in France in the Med near Toulon (english or german speaking)?

I am considering to buy a boat there and need a contact to potentially arrange a survey.



Any hints about the purchase process in France are very welcome, what are the necessary documents to look after, how is usually the payment process performed, what documents do I need to get to be able to register and insure the vessel in Germany etc..

The offer is from a private french owner through a boat brokerage company.

Thank you very much!
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Old 11-10-2017, 01:18   #2
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No one here from France that can point me in the right direction?
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Old 11-10-2017, 04:43   #3
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Two options. Stay with the french registration and just change the ownership within the "acte de francisation". This official booklet will prove the ownership information . You will need it to declare the boat out of france.

So you can sail under french flag if you are a EU citizen till FREXIT ;-). You donīt have to change the radio registration, MMSI and so on. You also can stay with the insurance. Does the boat stay in france? I would go with the french registration / flag.

But.....

If you register in germany, put a chapter in the contract that the seller will take care about the de-registering in france. The ADF booklet is your property evidence document. You additionally should ask for the initial bill or confirmation to have an additional VAT aproval.

As the boat holds an insurance and you donīt want to use it, you need to point out in the contract that you will not take over the insurance and any claims about the existing insurance must be adressed to the seller. Also any 3rd party claim should be excluded within the contract. The ADF only confirms the ownership. It does not confirm free of claims!!

Insurance in germany depends on the price. In general up to EUR 100.00,- there is not much information needed if construction year, equipment fits the insurance values. Above 100K it depends on the insurance company and you maybe have to deliver additional papers and information. Worst case you will need to have a expert appraisal.

I have planned to buy a used boat in France in 2016 and collected those information. But that was a around 70K boat. If you spend 2 million the picture is maybe different.

Which Dealer?

And, if you are a german, es gibt in der Yacht mehrere gute Threads zum Thema.

Support information can be requested by Afaires Maritimes. They also will have expert contacts available. EXPENSIVE!!!!

https://ec.europa.eu/maritimeaffairs...us/contacts_fr


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Re: Need contact to an english speaking marine surveyor in Toulon / Frannce

Well, thanx Peter.

I will get a German flag certificate and re-register the MMSI in Germany at the Bundesnetzagentur, but this is not the point. I need a surveyor in France to look at the boat prior closing , it is a used Lagoon catamaran and quite expensive, so a survey upfront is a good investment I think.

I just do not want to fly-in a surveyor from Germany for the job, so I was looking for a recommendation for a local professional.
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ask lagoon?
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Thanx, finaly I found one that seems very experianced and can provide the survey results in English too.

I will tell you more after the survey.
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Re: Need contact to an english speaking marine surveyor in Toulon / Frannce

I once used a guy claiming to be a surveyor called Jamie Scott-Hoskins who was based around Nice.
I would not recommend the experience. I paid upfront and after three months I still had no survey.
I then had a dispute with the broker who was holding my deposit.
I had three months to accept or give good reason to decline the boat.
Without the survey I could do neither.
Luckily the boat turned out to be a skip.....
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CatNewBee, we are looking for a surveyor in the south near Toulon also. Who did you go with and were you happy with the service?
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