Naked sailing!

[MBLittle]

Originally Posted by Matt sachs

The text/picture ratio is way off for this thread. Just sayin....

I was thinking the same thing....

[senormechanico]

Originally Posted by Matt sachs

The text/picture ratio is way off for this thread. Just sayin....

For that, ya gotta go to Sailing Anarchy.

[Cormorant]

Pix, or it didn't happen!

[Celestialsailor]

Originally Posted by ShaktiGurl

Good luck with that now that you have crossed out anchorages with nudity, any crime, anchoring laws, and that don't allow guns.

he he,,,the world gets small quick, doesn't it.

[deckofficer]

Originally Posted by Cormorant

Pix, or it didn't happen!

Here is your pix. It is happening and needs to be addressed. How could any good Christian allow this display in an anchorage?



Geez, the few that have a problem with nudity, get over it. We were created with drip dry bodies, why would you want to put on clothing to go swimming?

[Celestialsailor]

Originally Posted by IdoraKeeper

Maybe I need a frp boat so would have Time to read all the voluminous posting on this subject. But i need to re finish the companion way door.
You guys will never reform Scoobert or he you. I stand on my observation that naked sea lions or even dolphins are the real source of moral turpitude.

Originally Posted by Seaworthy Lass

I am beyond 'reforming' .

Originally Posted by Doodles

Trying to reform someone is like that saying about trying to teach a pig to sing ... it's a waste of time and it annoys the pig.

Since it's o.k. with most sailors, especially those sailing in the Med, who cares what Scoobert thinks. There are a lot of people out there with just plain weird views and that just the way it is. Just be glad he can't force his views/opinions on the rest of us.

I'll probably get yanked by the short hairs for saying this (pun intended). But isn't it obvious what is going on here? The individual in question has taken the thread hostage. He does this with any and every thread he posts on. Ultimately we feed the beast.

[bobconnie]

I really believe that I would leave an ancorage if Scoobert was there naked or not ! LOL Theres bound to be trouble no matter what !!

[sardinebreath]

Originally Posted by Group9

My only complaint with naked sailing is the same one I have with naked beaches. Namely, about 90 per cent of the people doing it would look more natural, with clothing on.

That would entail one very strange definition of the word "natural". Those who believe that clothed humans look more "natural" than naked humans, have divorced themselves so far from the natural world that they may as well be living in a computer simulation.

[foggysail]

Originally Posted by deckofficer

Here is your pix. It is happening and needs to be addressed. How could any good Christian allow this display in an anchorage?



Geez, the few that have a problem with nudity, get over it. We were created with drip dry bodies, why would you want to put on clothing to go swimming?

NICE LOOKING KIDS!!!!

And nothing wrong with what is shown. BUT---- if this was a picture displaying naked kids and you displayed it around where I live, it could ruin your day. You risk being arrested and charged as a pedophile. Not all agree about nudity especially when it comes to young kids.

Personally I have nothing against those who enjoy nudity although I believe there are times and places for it

[deckofficer]

Originally Posted by foggysail

NICE LOOKING KIDS!!!!

And nothing wrong with what is shown. BUT---- if this was a picture displaying naked kids and you displayed it around where I live, it could ruin your day. You risk being arrested and charged as a pedophile. Not all agree about nudity especially when it comes to young kids.

Personally I have nothing against those who enjoy nudity although I believe there are times and places for it

And this my cruising friends sums it up. Even the prospect of nudity derails the thought process. Just so happens all were wearing either shorts or swim suits in that picture. Like I've now said on this thread for the thrid time "....when in Rome...".

[foggysail]

As I posted Bob, nothing, nada, ziltch wrong with your picture! And nothing wrong with my comment regarding nude children. And people in our Country get arrested for having young preteen nude pictures as you very well know. And yes.....when in the United States......

"Personally I have nothing against those who enjoy nudity although I believe there are times and places for it "

Foggy

[eyschulman]

The social morality and psychology of naked sailing and other things like body piercing tattoos and bright colored Mohawks aside this still leaves us with one hard fact about nude boating(pun intended if you like) The Sun emits UV energy and it is destructive cumulative and more deadly than most realize. Unless the nudes are constantly slathered with sun block they are adding to the increasing epidemic of skin cancers and none cancerous skin damage. An old ex sun bather is quite a sight and as a retired MD I have seen my share of old wrinkle bags. So if you are proud of your birth day suite and want to keep it in good condition stay out of the sun. I do understand that I may be preaching to a select group here consisting of cruising sailors wont to throw caution to the wind and cross the seven seas on little boats no doubt a fair number of knuckle heads in the mix.

[Nostrodamus]

Originally Posted by muttnik

Having thought about Nostrodamus's various posts I think the issue is interpretation of intention from action. Nostrodamus says that he doesn't have an issue with nudity, only exhibitionism. Exhibitionism is intentionally creating a sexual situation. That can be threatening if you don't know how far they're going to take it and it's not unreasonable to not want a child to be put in a sexual situation at all, even if they aren't aware of the threat.

Nostrodamus's sarcastic reply to people saying he should accept it is probably because he thinks he is being asked to accept a sexually threatening situation or "look away".

Of course that isn't what people are saying. Intention is everything. And to guess what someone's intention is you need to have some awareness of their culture. The flip side of this is that to be respectful you should consider not only what your intentions are, but the intentions others might infer from your actions. Old people in a Greek village shouldn't be expected to understand your culture, so it would be highly disrespectful and threatening to parade into their village starkers. On the other hand someone cruising in the med could reasonably be expected to understand the clothing optional culture of other cruisers. Most long-term cruisers would probably be surprised at another med liveaboard attributing sexual intent to lack of clothing on their own boat in an anchorage.

Nostrodamus doesn't need to adopt someone else's culture, but he'd undoubtedly be a lot happier if he leaned to be a better judge of the intentions of those around him and realised that the perceived threat simply isn't there. People don't expect others to be threatened by their nudity in the changing room at a public pool, and they don't expect people to be threatened by their nudity while they're on their own boat.

Of course I could be wrong and Nostro might just think that his dress code is "right" but he seems like an intelligent bloke so I suspect that that isn't the case and it's just a misunderstanding of intent and culture.

Muttnick,
Mostly you are right and thank you for that.
As I have mentioned I don't mind nudity and it is something we do.
What I was talking about was appropriateness...
I have no problem with people going about their lives on a boat naked but in some circumstances there is more to it or it can be offensive. As an example I was giving the three men who exercised naked when they were right next to our boat. Judging by their physics it was not something they were used to and it seemed to me it was just exhibitionism rather than anything else. My wife certainly is no prude yet for the first time she didn't want to sit on deck as we knew one or the other would find an excuse to wander around the boat... it was just wrong.
People on the forums do take things the wrong way purposely or not so let them get on with it and tell me I have a problem. I am sure they would think differently in the same situation.
It is sailors who have decided that they can go nude in the Med and attitudes are more tolerant. In many if not all the countries we are talking about nudity is against the law apart from in designated beaches.
Sailors are generally a very considerate lot but on this subject it seems to be ...stuff you, I am going to do what I like. If someone disagrees then they are a religious nut, were given a bad upbringing or are mad...

[Nostrodamus]

I don't know why but this seems to come to mind when reading the threads on here...

A woman was standing in a supermarket queue talking on her cellphone. She wasn't speaking English. When she had finished than man in front of her rudely told her that she should speak English. "Pardon me?" said the lady. Very slowly the man says "this is America, here we speak English, if you want to speak Mexican go back to Mexico". The lady replied, "I was speaking Navajo, if you want to speak English go back to England".

[jkindredpdx]

Originally Posted by foggysail

NICE LOOKING KIDS!!!!

---- if this was a picture displaying naked kids and you displayed it around where I live, it could ruin your day. You risk being arrested and charged as a pedophile. . .

That is a shame, seems our puritan capitalist culture sells a demented form of sex with one hand and condemns with the other... breeding anger, despair, confusion, and illness because few of us are taught to embrace our natural, beautiful, nonjudgmental selves.

Show me a 2-3 year old that doesn't love to run through the sprinkler or into the surf naked and laughing. One learns to be ashamed of the human form, we aren't born with that.