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13-08-2010, 00:29
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Location: December 2014 Back in Marmaris Turkey getting Dora Mac ready to put back on the market.
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Motorbikes on Boats
Some dock mates at Puteri Harbour Marina in Malaysia bought a Honda 100cc four-stroke motorbike in April and have been going everywhere on it. I priced a new one with aluminum wheels, heavy tires, storage baskets, front disc brake, registration, and one year insurance for $1,558.50 USD. The bike only weighs 85 kilos.
My problem is we leave SE Asia for the Mediterranean in January and I wondered if I will be able to use the bike in the countires surrounding the Med. Anyone had any experience.
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13-08-2010, 04:09
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Importing and licensing is a major PITA. I had a friend who bought 4 motorbikes in Thailand and tried to bring them into Cyprus. It took ages and lots of money to get them approved for use. If you are lazy, you would be better off with an electric bike.
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13-08-2010, 06:23
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Join Date: Mar 2009
Location: Denmark (Winter), Helsinki (Summer); Cruising the Baltic Sea this year!
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I'm not sure you have to import and license them if you are only temporaily in the country. You should check on that.
Having a motorbike on board would be fantastic -- would really give you the legs and range to explore wherever you go. It's not just for the "lazy".
Just one question though (besides the importation and licensing question) -- where the h*ll will you keep it? It may weigh only 85 kilos, but you don't just fold it up and put it in a cockpit locker, do you now?
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13-08-2010, 06:50
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Location: Winter land based UK New Forest. Summer months away. Making the transition from sail to power this year - scary stuff.
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I think Dockheads right and would equally be surprised if any bike your bought into a country on a temporary basis (provided it was already registered / plated elsewhere) would attract any form of import duty. But insurance might be worthwhile considering...........
We've jsut sold our sail boat and are in the process of buying a power launch to cruise the inland EU waterways. And we've equally bought a 125cc Virago for exactly the same reasons as you.
It does mean the specification of the pending power launch includes space to store it (plus lifting arm) on deck, but the bike will increase our options where ever we end up.
Factually we've met loads of people on our travels who have cruised for years, but most accept they usually end up port hopping, or looking at beaches, and they all see a lot of sea!
IMHO getting off a cruising boat is quite important if you want to experience life a little more........
So good luck - and by the way - I envy your buying prices!!
JOHN
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13-08-2010, 08:08
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There are several pervious threads about this exact subject.
I really wanted to do just this but in the end have abandonded the idea. Part of the reason is that in the Med there are a fair amount of rental motorcycles and scooters available. By the time you buy the cycle, store it, off load it, maintain it, etc. you could rent one for so much less. Then you also have the issue of draining the gas tank everytime you stow it. If you are going to buy one, this is my suggestion:
PEIRSPEED Motorcycles, Scooters, and Powersports Products.
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13-08-2010, 13:21
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Palarran
There are several pervious threads about this exact subject.
I really wanted to do just this but in the end have abandonded the idea. Part of the reason is that in the Med there are a fair amount of rental motorcycles and scooters available. By the time you buy the cycle, store it, off load it, maintain it, etc. you could rent one for so much less. Then you also have the issue of draining the gas tank everytime you stow it. If you are going to buy one, this is my suggestion:
PEIRSPEED Motorcycles, Scooters, and Powersports Products.
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That's a very cool looking bike! But no way in h*ll could I stow that on my vessel other than as deck cargo. And ours is 54'! So I guess motorbike is off the list.
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13-08-2010, 17:49
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Join Date: Mar 2009
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We have a 100cc Aprilia Scarabeo on our bow deck. We cut the railing around the bow in two places and we have a ramp that folds up to load and unload the scooter. As long as we have a dock to side up to, we can get it off, either on the port or the starboard side. Until Jan 2009, that was all the motorized transportation we had. We had a sunbrella cover made for it and no salt water gets to it while aboard, and we use the top cover while it is parked at marinas. A wonderful thing for us!
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13-08-2010, 18:00
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Join Date: Feb 2008
Location: December 2014 Back in Marmaris Turkey getting Dora Mac ready to put back on the market.
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Storage
We have a Diesel Duck 462 with a flybridge. At 85 Kilos I believe we can use a halyard and the windless to hoist it up to the flybridge. Having a Sunbrella cover made is a good idea.
I researched the internet this morning and there is no problem using it in Turkey and Israel for up to 6 months with proof of insurance. I continue to believe this is a good idea and especially at that price.
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13-08-2010, 20:52
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As I understand it, the ticket is, 50 cc or under, legal anywhere (except California I'm sure). That is why you see so many 49 cc such units out there.
I have the Di Blasi Mariner model. S.S. frame. It's looking for a new home if anybody can find their way to Baja the same time as me.
Consider this
Golden Eagle Bike Engines, Geared Belt Drive Bicycle Engines / Motors for Mountain Bikes & More. Way kewl. Or is that hot? I don't know anymore.
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13-08-2010, 20:53
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Originally Posted by Reckless
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Ok....so I guess I'm buying one of these now, they look sick!
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13-08-2010, 22:58
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14-08-2010, 00:04
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Join Date: Feb 2008
Location: December 2014 Back in Marmaris Turkey getting Dora Mac ready to put back on the market.
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Decided
I think with the added abilty to travel and see at least local areas, say within a 100 K of the boat, purchasing this bike will be a good choice. I think we have decided to do it given that we won't have trouble using in countries around the Med.
At this site is a picture: http://www.honda.com.vn/Upload/Produ...u2_yelllow.jpg
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14-08-2010, 15:35
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I had a grey import motor bike in the UK for a while. The dealer paid the 20% import duty so I didn't see that cost directly, same with the registration paperwork hassle. What he forgot was the headlight dips the wrong way and Japanese indicators stay permanently lit only flashing when you select left or right. Confusing to other drivers in the UK and whilst fixable took a little time.
Now what would be cool is a monkey bike
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Pete
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11-08-2015, 06:02
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Join Date: Jul 2012
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Re: Motorbikes on Boats
Isn't better to use a regular folding bike that is designed for sea environment as for example the Montague Paratrooper and a Copenaghen wheel to electrify it, so the licencse problem is solved (there are some electric kits for bike that turn it almost into a motorbike just google them )
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