Originally Posted by DumnMad
Yeah, I think I agree. The boat pics he posts are foreign to me but interesting never-the-less, and, he clearly loves boats.
Now, what were we fighting about??
Yes that's right I love a good discussion
makes the brain work
and different views about a subject are always a good thing that contributes to have wider views on a subject.
For all that thought that I was against the liberty of someone to do anything he wants to do let me say that you got me wrong. I am in favor of euthanasia and that's the biggest liberty anyone can have.
I don't see anything wrong with someone wanted do end their days sailing even if that may create the conditions to shorten his live length for lack of regular or urgent medical
care. It's a personal choice that I respect.
And that's were it comes the diference between irresponsible and reasonable. Reasonable is a question of opinion, what is for one is not for others.
Irresponsibility is not since it is related in a social way. Someone can only be irresponsible regarding others since irresponsibility towards himself is a question of personal judgement and then we would fall on what one finds reasonable or not.
On all this subject the only social irresponsibility that someone incurs when sailing to the horizon independently of the odds to be succeeded (old age, bad health
, unseaworthy boat or inadequate boat) regards the superior risk of needing a rescue
or being object of a research
. Off course that problem would disappear if a insurance covering that was made. Unfortunately the risks are so big that no insurance company does that for guys over 65.
This brings us to another related subject, the costs of pleasure sailing rescues and research
being sported (in a huge way) by the ones that don't sail and that have not any interest in sailing.
and research makes sense to be paid by the general tax payers when regards to economic professional activities like fishing
or transport, it makes no sense at all in what regards pleasure sailing where one is at risk only because he chose to be there not because he had a need too.
Some similitude there with other sport and pleasure activities that involve some risk and where in many countries a mandatory insurance is needed.
Some will say that some of those rescue missions are made by volunteers by that regards only coastal rescues and never very expensive aerial searches or ocean rescues.
Due to the increase of expensive ocean rescues (the coast guard numbers regards all rescues and don't give any information regarding the ones that regards pleasure boats in coastal or ocean conditions) it will be only a question of time till a mandatory rescue and research insurance to be demanded to those that sail offshore
That of course will not prevent nobody of sailing when and to where they want but will make the sailing offshore
community socially responsibly for the costs that incur (in a global way) from the risks inherent to such an activity.
Has we have seen in what regards insurance companies and those insurances the risks are not the same and they increase after a certain age (65) but I am quite sure that if such an insurance was mandatory and a considerable number of sailors needed such an insurance there would be insurance companies that would cover the superior risk adapting the prices to risks, conform diferences in ages in steeps over 65.
Like an old boat, an old sailor would pay more and like old boats, that many consider that are safer, what interests insurance companies is not particular cases but averages and average risk and in a statistical way old boats have more accidents than new ones, like old sailors.
I am an old sailor that still fell young but know that I have not the same agility, stamina and muscular control than I had 15 year ago (not to mention 30) and that know that 15 years from now I would be in a worse physical condition than I am now, even if I don't intend to stop sailing and cruising.