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22-09-2008, 17:39
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Nobody knows about the Dragin Bowline?
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22-09-2008, 17:42
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You should also know how to coil a rope, secure it and make it ready for immediate use.[/quote]
BINGO!
A major pet peeve for me.
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22-09-2008, 19:42
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Round turn and two half hitches - That was bugging me all the way to work today. Thanks for adding it.
Newbies use all kinds of interesting knots to tie fenders on the stanchions - LOL...
Their philosophy seems to be, "If you don't have the right knot, just use lots of the one you do know..."
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22-09-2008, 20:21
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The I had to learn a a Boy Scout are fine.
Plus you should learn to tie a bowline with one hand.
I can't 'splain how to do it.....
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22-09-2008, 20:30
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The number one knot is the one to tie your shoes. If you don't know this one, your shoes will keep falling off.
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23-09-2008, 04:38
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Yep, I know the "dragin" bowline :-)
While we're on bowlines there are two variations that are extremely useful. The French bowline which gives you two loops and a bowline on a bite, great for attaching sheet lines to foresails.
George
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23-09-2008, 04:59
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I'm surprised, bstreep was the only other person to add a bend to your list. I would add knowing at least one bend, I use a double beckett bend, as essential. Sure, you can make a loop with a bowline, and then tie another bowline to it, but that looks and is a bit cheesy. The knots that I use all the time are bowline, clove hitch for temporary lashings, rolling hitch, figure eight stopper, and the double beckett bend.
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23-09-2008, 05:05
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All you young fella's are missing the most frequently used in an emergency bend: the round 'an round 'an round three times then stand on the end bend.
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23-09-2008, 08:32
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Speaking of shoe knots. I've used this one for about 4 months now on my deck shoes, and I've gone from 2 or 3 re-ties a day to once every 2 months. Seriously. And, it LOOKS like a regular tied knot:
Ian's Shoelace Site - Ian's Secure Shoelace Knot
I still say a sheet bend. The best knot for tying 2 lines together.
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23-09-2008, 08:55
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I.ve seen lots of people tie a gosh knot.
You ask them what type of knot that is they all say "Gosh, I don't know".
I have replaced the truckers knot with what I learned as a "Circus Knot". It's slightly easier and in MHO quicker to tie. When you chinch it down it has great multiplying power also. Unfortunately...no picture at this time.
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23-09-2008, 08:58
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Quote:
Originally Posted by bstreep
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I still say a sheet bend. The best knot for tying 2 lines together.
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Sorry Bstreep, gotta disagree, its the double sheet bend for me.
All the bowlines, clove hitches, round turn & 2 half hitches, rolling hitches, reef knots, figure of 8 etc are interesting and good to know and use but I consider the double sheet bend as the useful of all.
BTW, tell me the difference between a sheet bend and a bowline?
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23-09-2008, 09:05
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Wotname
Sorry Bstreep, gotta disagree, its the double sheet bend for me.
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I believe the double sheet bend is the same as the double beckett bend that I use. Better for tying lines of different size than the single sheet bend.
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BTW, tell me the difference between a sheet bend and a bowline?
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Is this a trick question? A bowline is tied on the end of a line, a bend is made between two different lines.
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23-09-2008, 09:11
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Double sheet bend & double beckett are the same. "After further review, the knot recommended is reversed". I'll stand corrected and agree the double is more secure...
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23-09-2008, 10:33
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Good Grief! No one mentioned the Constrictor knot. I use it all the time to secure something that you don't want to come undone. For example, as an emergency substitute for a hoseclamp. The only way to remove it, once applied and tightened, is to cut it off with a knife.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Constrictor_knot
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23-09-2008, 10:56
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"Dragon" bowline is how I learned to spell it. Also the flying bowline is a good one to learn although not a true bowline it can be done in a flash and has all the good characteristics of a bowline.
JohnL
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