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Old 05-03-2018, 09:22   #16
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I must confess a certain respect for the Vloggers.. not that I watch any.. more from the fact I've considered giving it a go.
However where I fall down is getting it together enough to even bother to switch on the Go Cam.. let alone dance in front of it.
My one attempt was a video on cooking at sea after multiple posts by folks living on canned food and rice.. thought I'd show what can be easily done..
Complete disaster.. lousy commentary.. lots of stuttering.. pulled a few jibes from some forum members..
I may still give it a serious go one day.. hell I've spent the dosh so why not..
But.. the reality is, like the Drone I bought that's still in its box.. it'll never happen..
Did you post the vlog on Youtube ?
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Did you post the vlog on Youtube ?
Nope.. just a trial CF run.. that was enuf..
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Old 05-03-2018, 09:48   #18
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I'm all for it.

I also think nothing wrong with panhandling, long as not a nuisance and no deception involved.

I reserve moral outrage for those harming others, not just living in ways I'd prefer not to.
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Old 05-03-2018, 15:08   #19
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"Adapt or die" comes to mind. It is always hard for some to see value in new ways of doing things.

Back when I started sailing, a few sailors made their money writing articles for the magazines. Celestial navigation was the ONLY way, and anchors were considered insurance. I remember hearing rumblings on the dock when sailors laughed at the new $8000 GPS systems available to pleasure boaters, most wondering how anyone would be stupid enough to rely upon one for navigation. How many celestial navigators are left? The printed word is dying, just like celestial, and streaming video is the GPS of today. Earning money from one's modern video production is the replacement of the printed article. Young people embrace modern technology and use it to their advantage.

Crank windows are all but gone. Loran C is dead. Good luck finding a map in a gas station. Fewer and fewer people read for entertainment.

Adapt or die.
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I don’t have a problem with outright panhandling. I simply don’t contribute. Easy.

As for vlogging for money, this is serious work. Anyone making decent coin is working very hard. I do some video production, and it is no easy task putting together something of quality. I take my hat off to those who can do it well.

That said, I have almost zero interest in any of the popular vloggers I’ve seen. Most successful ones seem to border on soft-porn, with lots of good looking youngins in skimpy outfits. Not that I mind that, but if I’m in search of that sort of thing, there are better places on the interwebs.
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Pete7 has got it right, it’s days like that you wonder why you are paying for the privilege of putting yourself through so much pain.
Every year I must get three or four Bubers that have a sail like Pete7 then put the yacht back on the market or have a serious rethink about a circumnavigation.
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I have a much different take on this in great part because of a background in post production. The rule of thumb is you need an hour of raw footage to make a minute of acceptable video. Not everyone has the same definition of acceptable; but by that I mean stuff that you can make money with. Not trying to dis those who sail and put their vids on you tube but even the most successful ones don't come close to matching the money made by the top rated youtube channels. I just did a quick search and came up with this hit for the most popular channels on youtube. I must not be one of the cool kids cuz I never heard of any of them. Not to mention the short clips in the vid don't really make me want to watch any of those channels. But a lot of them are making more than $US1,000,000 a year. So it is hard for me to get excited about peeps using the internet to get a few grand or begging for a new boat.

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I blame their cynical, disaffected, slacker parents. You know, the ones who were left to clean up the mess after the boomers had their fun.

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I have a much different take on this in great part because of a background in post production. The rule of thumb is you need an hour of raw footage to make a minute of acceptable video. Not everyone has the same definition of acceptable; but by that I mean stuff that you can make money with. Not trying to dis those who sail and put their vids on you tube but even the most successful ones don't come close to matching the money made by the top rated youtube channels. I just did a quick search and came up with this hit for the most popular channels on youtube. I must not be one of the cool kids cuz I never heard of any of them. Not to mention the short clips in the vid don't really make me want to watch any of those channels. But a lot of them are making more than $US1,000,000 a year. So it is hard for me to get excited about peeps using the internet to get a few grand or begging for a new boat.

I can't even express how depressed I feel after watching that video. The world has been seriously "dummied down." Stop the planet, I want to get off...
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... I just did a quick search and came up with this hit for the most popular channels on youtube. I must not be one of the cool kids cuz I never heard of any of them. Not to mention the short clips in the vid don't really make me want to watch any of those channels. But a lot of them are making more than $US1,000,000 a year. So it is hard for me to get excited about peeps using the internet to get a few grand or begging for a new boat.
Wow. Zero interest in any of those “channels."

… I feel so old
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Wow. Zero interest in any of those “channels."

… I feel so old
No, not old Mike. The problem is you have a brain ...
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I have a much different take on this in great part because of a background in post production. The rule of thumb is you need an hour of raw footage to make a minute of acceptable video. Not everyone has the same definition of acceptable; but by that I mean stuff that you can make money with. Not trying to dis those who sail and put their vids on you tube but even the most successful ones don't come close to matching the money made by the top rated youtube channels. I just did a quick search and came up with this hit for the most popular channels on youtube. I must not be one of the cool kids cuz I never heard of any of them. Not to mention the short clips in the vid don't really make me want to watch any of those channels. But a lot of them are making more than $US1,000,000 a year. So it is hard for me to get excited about peeps using the internet to get a few grand or begging for a new boat.

I to have an extensive background in Post Production having owned my own
studios in Manhattan for 35 years and have to disagree here.
A shooting ratio of 60 to 1 would kill these vloogers
Willing to bet it’s more like 20 to 1
The successful ones by now Know
what their audience wants and script and shoot accordingly.
Yes, Script , Plan , Block, Execute,
Then spend about an hour in post for every
minute of finished show.
Anymore then the above and they are digital slaves
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Re: Millennials and Crowdfunding

I wouldn't be good at trying to crowdfund a personal dream. I believe there are better causes than myself to throw money at.

But I've also always had a bit of trouble asking others for help, so maybe something like that would be good for me.

No prissy britches over here either way.
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Nope.. just a trial CF run.. that was enuf..
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