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06-03-2014, 14:47
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#466
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Registered User
Join Date: Mar 2012
Location: Nelson NZ; boat in Port Stephens, NSW.
Boat: 45ft Ketch
Posts: 1,563
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Re: Man Washes up in Marshall Islands 'After 16 Months Adrift'
Some posters love their skeptic label so much that they ignore the facts and jump to their own conclusions and resent any critical appraisal of their own position. I've met religious people like that. Takes all types.....
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06-03-2014, 14:50
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#467
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cruiser
Join Date: May 2010
Location: SF Bay Area; Former Annapolis and MA Liveaboard.
Boat: Looking and saving for my next...mid-atlantic coast
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Re: Man Washes up in Marshall Islands 'After 16 Months Adrift'
Quote:
Originally Posted by DumnMad
Some posters love their skeptic label so much that they ignore the facts and jump to their own conclusions and resent any critical appraisal of their own position.
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Really? Show me the facts that you used to base your conclusion on these posters.  
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06-03-2014, 14:57
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#468
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Moderator Emeritus

Join Date: Jan 2012
Location: Northern NSW.Australia
Boat: Sunmaid 20, John Welsford Navigator
Posts: 9,525
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Re: Man Washes up in Marshall Islands 'After 16 Months Adrift'
Simple explanation here Salty. "Facts" are statements that agree with your ideas. "Conclusions" are statements that do not. That is always the fact in my conclusion.
Coops.
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06-03-2014, 18:31
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#469
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Registered User
Join Date: Nov 2013
Posts: 12
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Re: Man Washes up in Marshall Islands 'After 16 Months Adrift'
I'm planning to "wash up" on the shores of Mexico.
When I was last there they got quite excited about my documentation,
which why I wondered if this guy in his Panga had a visa for the Marshalls . .
Mexico would not accept a printout of my boats registration certificate . . . only "an original" would do. I made the mistake of saying that it came off a database and no original existed . . . and after that I'd had it . . big time!
Nothing I could do or say would get them to accept my "printout" certificate. Stalemate ensued . . . I couldn't check out because I couldn't check in . . . so when I'm next in those parts . . . I'll just wash up on the shore somewhere.
 If they can do it . . . so can I
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06-03-2014, 18:53
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#470
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Registered User
Join Date: Jan 2014
Posts: 108
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Re: Man Washes up in Marshall Islands 'After 16 Months Adrift'
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Originally Posted by jtsailjt
...if he had a refrigerator to keep it in for a long time. In a very warm, moist environment like the one he was in, flesh quickly begins to rot and eating rotten meat will make you sick and that will rob you of the nutrients you hoped to gain as well as dehydrate you.
"... an empty desert like ocean."
Think of your favorite place on the ocean and then think of the worst weather you would see in a typical year at that spot and then try to imagine if anyone would be likely to survive in an open, 24' boat out there, keeping in mind that person would be badly fatigued and weakened and without equipment to steer or sail the boat or even change its orientation to the wind/waves.
You REALLY don't find it hard to believe?
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say's a lot about the boat !
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07-03-2014, 17:39
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#471
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CF Adviser
Join Date: Oct 2007
Boat: Van Helleman Schooner 65ft StarGazer
Posts: 10,280
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Re: Man Washes up in Marshall Islands 'After 16 Months Adrift'
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Originally Posted by Coops
What are irresponsible late stooges doomed to?
Coops.
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Coops is that a veiled Monica Lewinsky joke?
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07-03-2014, 18:31
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#472
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Moderator Emeritus

Join Date: Jan 2012
Location: Northern NSW.Australia
Boat: Sunmaid 20, John Welsford Navigator
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Re: Man Washes up in Marshall Islands 'After 16 Months Adrift'
Quote:
Originally Posted by Pelagic
Coops is that a veiled Monica Lewinsky joke?
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Not to my knowledge, but if it's funny, then yes.
Coops.
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07-03-2014, 20:29
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#473
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Registered User
Join Date: Jan 2008
Location: Honokohau, Big Island, Hawaii
Posts: 91
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Re: Man Washes up in Marshall Islands 'After 16 Months Adrift'
Regarding the clean boat,
Assuming water was the limiting resource and the boat the largest catchment available, I'd keep it as clean as possible so that any rain water collected would not spoil. Clean turtle shells, yes, perhaps to shade the bilge and reduce evaporation.
I wish there were more pictures of the boat...
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25-04-2014, 15:01
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#474
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Registered User
Join Date: Nov 2012
Location: Dreaming - through the bars to the Chesapeake... Land cabin: near Raleigh, North Carolina
Posts: 466
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Re: Man Washes up in Marshall Islands 'After 16 Months Adrift'
Well our castaway has finally revealed some of the detail of his ordeal:
Castaway Jose Alvarenga exclusively reveals his story | Mail Online
So, what I take from the DM article is that all sailors should carry a really big store of compressed/dried fiber products. Guess what was put in the article as one of the most health damaging effects of the voyage, and causing much agony? CONSTIPATION!
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25-04-2014, 15:03
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#475
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Registered User
Join Date: Jan 2012
Location: San Diego
Boat: Pearson 39-2 "Sea Story"
Posts: 1,109
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Re: Man Washes up in Marshall Islands 'After 16 Months Adrift'
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Originally Posted by Sailor_Hutch
Well our castaway has finally revealed some of the detail of his ordeal:
Castaway Jose Alvarenga exclusively reveals his story | Mail Online
So, what I take from the DM article is that all sailors should carry a really big store of compressed/dried fiber products. Guess what was put in the article as one of the most health damaging effects of the voyage, and causing much agony? CONSTIPATION!
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You need plenty of water to combat that as well, not just survival amounts.
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25-04-2014, 15:39
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#476
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cruiser
Join Date: May 2010
Location: SF Bay Area; Former Annapolis and MA Liveaboard.
Boat: Looking and saving for my next...mid-atlantic coast
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Re: Man Washes up in Marshall Islands 'After 16 Months Adrift'
Yes, as I think I posted somewhere, all the protein from fish etc.
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25-04-2014, 16:33
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#477
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Moderator

Join Date: Dec 2008
Location: Between Caribbean and Canada
Boat: Murray 33-Chouette & Pape Steelmaid-44-Safara-both steel cutters
Posts: 9,399
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Re: Man Washes up in Marshall Islands 'After 16 Months Adrift'
Good story.
I just saw The Life of Pi. That was only 8 months.
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25-04-2014, 17:01
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#478
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Registered User
Join Date: Jul 2013
Location: San Diego, CA
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Re: Man Washes up in Marshall Islands 'After 16 Months Adrift'
As I recall, he had a fellow fisherman with him at the beginning of the ordeal. Surprisingly, the DM article didn't fixate on what happened to him.
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25-04-2014, 17:11
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#479
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Registered User
Join Date: Dec 2013
Location: Paradise
Boat: Various
Posts: 2,427
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Re: Man Washes up in Marshall Islands 'After 16 Months Adrift'
Quote:
Originally Posted by socaldmax
As I recall, he had a fellow fisherman with him at the beginning of the ordeal. Surprisingly, the DM article didn't fixate on what happened to him.
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There was a video that was supposed to have him discussing that, but I couldn't get it to play. Plus wondered what language it was in if I did.
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25-04-2014, 17:12
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#480
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Resin Head

Join Date: Aug 2007
Location: Seattle WA
Boat: Nauticat
Posts: 7,205
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Re: Man Washes up in Marshall Islands 'After 16 Months Adrift'
Quote:
Originally Posted by socaldmax
As I recall, he had a fellow fisherman with him at the beginning of the ordeal. Surprisingly, the DM article didn't fixate on what happened to him.
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That's because the above link is to part two of a two part article. Part one, where he discusses his companion and denies eating him, is here.
Castaway Jose Alvarenga denies he turned cannibal on dead companion in exclusive interview | Mail Online
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