Cruisers Forum
 


Reply
  This discussion is proudly sponsored by:
Please support our sponsors and let them know you heard about their products on Cruisers Forums. Advertise Here
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread Rate Thread Display Modes
Old 23-05-2022, 10:01   #1
Registered User

Join Date: Apr 2013
Location: Petaluma, CA
Boat: Nauticat 43
Posts: 44
Long term refrigerator storage

Hi Everyone,

Our Nauticat 43 is located in the Barra de Navidad, Mexico marina, plugged in to shore power with the refrigerator on, and running. Everything else is turned off except the bilge pump. We wonít be back to the boat for almost 5 months. The boat is prepped for hurricane season. Itís very hot and humid during hurricane season. We have an amazing man named Pancho (and his team) who tends to the boat. Washing, bottom cleaning, checking the lines etc.
With these circumstances, would you;
1. Leave the refrigerator plugged in to shore power?
2. Would you unplug and turn on solar instead?
3. Other long term marina prep suggestions?

Thanks in advance!
rbrazil is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 23-05-2022, 10:28   #2
Registered User
 
Cheechako's Avatar

Join Date: Aug 2006
Location: Skagit City, WA
Posts: 24,645
Re: Long term refrigerator storage

-Why leave the fridge on? Turn it off.
-Tape over your tank vents to avoid bugs building nests in there and blocking them. This happened in 3 months on my boat.
-Find a way to leave some air flow inside the boat.
__________________
"I spent most of my money on Booze, Broads and Boats. The rest I wasted" - Elmore Leonard











Cheechako is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 23-05-2022, 10:44   #3
Registered User

Join Date: Dec 2007
Location: Hawaii
Boat: Tartan T4400
Posts: 288
Re: Long term refrigerator storage

I agree with Cheechako, turn off the reefer clean and leave the door open. Also on the air flow, If you are going to keep the boat connect to shore power I would also purchase a fan or a dehumidifier to circulate air this will help keep the mold and mildew to a minimum. Solar will keep your batteries charges and may run your bilge pump (don't know your solar charging capacity) so you could just disconnect from shore power. one less thing to be concerned about. I would not try to run the fan/dehumidifier off of solar/battery via inverter.
__________________
Aloha
Mike
Gudgeon is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 23-05-2022, 13:39   #4
Registered User

Join Date: Apr 2013
Location: Petaluma, CA
Boat: Nauticat 43
Posts: 44
Re: Long term refrigerator storage

Thanks for the replies.
rbrazil is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 23-05-2022, 17:01   #5
Registered User
 
grantmc's Avatar

Join Date: Jul 2013
Location: home town Wellington, NZ and Savusavu Fiji
Boat: Reinke S10 & Raven 26
Posts: 1,050
Send a message via Skype™ to grantmc
Re: Long term refrigerator storage

This may be a tad late for your OP, but if you're still at your boat, last thing I'd do before departure is:

1. Take photos all over the boat, especially inside the vessel, inside lockers, bilges everywhere. Plus make an inventory of as much as you can manage including noting down (preferably plus a photo) of the serial no details of each item.

If your yacht is burgled then you've some evidence of what the boat was like when you left and the gear that you had. And from experience I know that this is very useful for Police, insurance and your own memory.

2. Decide on clear instructions about Pancho's access to inside the boat. Useful for some local to hold a key, for sure. Bit no one cares about your boat more than you, and no one will be as careful in their lockup process. Thefts from unattended boats like yours usually go for months before even being realised it's happened. Pancho wont know what you've got, so he wont know it's gone.

3. Leave roach, rat and other relevant baits profusely throughout (record where you left them, photos). Ditch ALL the food except cans and jars.

4. Remove as much as you can from outside: sails obviously, but I would remove, or tie down solar panels, awnings/bimini etc. Trust me, if you hear about a really bad storm passing through Jalisco you will not want to be worrying about your boat. And double your mooring lines. Put some covering at potential wear spots to prevent chafe. Discuss with marina, Pancho or whoever will take responsibility what the process is to be if a bad storm is forecast.

5. Have a plan that someone locally can undertake for the boat to be moved, and/or lifted out of the water. if needed Stuff fails, maybe some boat might allide with yours causing water ingress. All you can do is sit on the end of the phone (I have so been waning to use the word allide.

6. I assume that your Nauticat will be in a marina? So presumably there is a safe marina storage facility (or maybe Pancho's garage). That's where stuff like outboards, cameras, nav equipment, ipads, laptops, power tools, fishing gear, dinghy, dive ear, binoculars, flare guns, guns in general should all be kept. Also leave a large note in English and Spanish firmly stuck to the cockpit door advising thieves that all the good stuff has been taken off the boat. But then again perhaps the boat will be in a safe secure marina with security. (And let's not forget all that cameras do is give you pictures, cameras don't get your stuff back.)

7. Turn the fridge off, that's just stupid. And personally I would never leave any electrical appliance running 24x7 for several months on shore pwoer unattended. So I respectfully disagree with Gudgeon about leaving a dehumidifier running, but do agree with his/her suggestion to unplug shore power.

And just about everyone I've known who's left there boat for a few months has returned far latter than they expected.
__________________
Grant Mc
The cure for everything is salt water: sweat, tears or the sea. Yeah right, I wish.
grantmc is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 23-05-2022, 18:37   #6
Registered User

Join Date: Apr 2013
Location: Petaluma, CA
Boat: Nauticat 43
Posts: 44
Re: Long term refrigerator storage

Grant,
Thanks for the very thorough reply. Wow!
1. Did that. 2. Did that. 3 Didn’t do that.(3 years in Puerto Vallarta, no bugs. Well…one bee infestation.) 4. Did that. (Barra marina is a good hurricane hole) 5. Did that. 6. Didn’t do that. (Its a secure marina with 24/7 guard and a very good reputation.) 7. I know, dumb idea leaving the fridge on for 5 months. Heres the back story. I disconnected shore power, turned off all 12v systems (except bilge pump) and the frig was still running! I didnt have time to research so I left it on, letting Pancho know to keep an eye on things. The marina staff, fellow live aboard cruisers on the dock and Pancho are very capable and I trust them to help if needed. Thanks again for all your input. You went above and beyond!
rbrazil is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 24-05-2022, 03:33   #7
Senior Cruiser
 
GordMay's Avatar

Cruisers Forum Supporter

Join Date: Mar 2003
Location: Thunder Bay, Ontario - 48-29N x 89-20W
Boat: (Cruiser Living On Dirt)
Posts: 47,022
Images: 241
Re: Long term refrigerator storage

Quote:
Originally Posted by Cheechako View Post
-Why leave the fridge on? Turn it off.
-Tape over your tank vents to avoid bugs building nests* in there and blocking them. This happened in 3 months on my boat.
-Find a way to leave some air flow inside the boat.
* Indeed.
In 1996, "Birgenair Flight 301" crashed [with 189 fatalities], shortly after take-off, from Puerto Plata, in the Dominican Republic, due to pilot error, after receiving incorrect airspeed information from one of the pitot tubes, which investigators believe was blocked by a [black and yellow mud dauber] wasp nest, built inside it.
The aircraft had been sitting unused for 20 days, and without pitot tube covers in place, for the preceding 2 days, before the crash.
__________________
Gord May
"If you didn't have the time or money to do it right in the first place, when will you get the time/$ to fix it?"



GordMay is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 24-05-2022, 06:45   #8
Registered User

Join Date: Nov 2019
Posts: 51
Re: Long term refrigerator storage

Instead of taping vents and discharges, put balls of steel wool in them if you can. Won't allow bugs etc, and won't clog if you forget to remove them when you splash...
rwaldrop13 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 24-05-2022, 07:38   #9
Registered User

Join Date: Oct 2011
Location: Titusville, FL
Boat: Shannon 38
Posts: 75
Re: Long term refrigerator storage

I'm of a different opinion. We used to turn the frig off when not in use for months at a time (South Florida) and the compressors rusted out. Now we leave it on (solar charge) and haven't gone through a refrigerator in about 16 years (two different boats, this one, 11 years w/o failure.) Perhaps it's a coincidence, or perhaps the warmth does drive away corrosion-creating moisture. This one has no drain holes for bugs to come in; when not opening the frig there is minimal frost/moisture to condense.
Virginia Lee is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 24-05-2022, 16:19   #10
Registered User

Join Date: Dec 2014
Posts: 681
Re: Long term refrigerator storage

Have lived in the tropics on our boat for over 40 years and never had any mould. None. Ever.
What we always do is tie down a small fg tender over the highest deck hatch. The deck hatch is left slightly open under the tender.
Both warm and moist air have lower density than cooler or dryer air and the mould-causing air automatically leaves the boat via that highest point vent. The hatch has fly screens as well.
We do have a few places where some air can enter as well e.g. at the cockpit entry drop boards (Small cowl vents on the vertical surface). We have left the boat for very long periods during both the dry and (very) wet seasons without any fans.

The attention to recording all the valuable stuff depends on the environment. We had a break in in the Swan River (Perth WA) many years ago (in front of the notorious Allan Bond's waterfront house!), but never in a marina. Live aboards in a marina generally means better security.

Yes. Do use cockroach baits. Replace baits regularly, and put stainless steel wool into vents.
Also be aware that birds will make nests on your unattended boat with the associated droppings. There are a few forums dedicated to this problem.

Do ensure that the automatic bilge pumps and alarms are working and the gas is turned off along with all hull valves.
billgewater is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 24-05-2022, 16:29   #11
Registered User

Join Date: Apr 2013
Location: Petaluma, CA
Boat: Nauticat 43
Posts: 44
Re: Long term refrigerator storage

Thanks everyone! Good information. I just wanted to see what the mass’s do.
rbrazil is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 25-05-2022, 14:24   #12
Moderator
 
JPA Cate's Avatar

Join Date: Nov 2011
Location: aboard, cruising in Australia
Boat: Sayer 46' Solent rig sloop
Posts: 24,656
Re: Long term refrigerator storage

We always turned our fridges off, too. Don't know why the poster above's compressor rusted out. 18 yrs. liveaboard on the first one, no problems. And I second usking cockie baits while you're gone. If one gets in and she's pregnant, they'll eat anything to try to stay alive. Fridge open, no electricity coming into boat from marina (avoids problems with stray current). Nothing touching the fridge gaskets, let them rebound a bit while you're gone.

I'd take my laptops home with me in carry on luggage, though. What would I do without my brains?

Ann
__________________
Who scorns the calm has forgotten the storm.
JPA Cate is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply

Tags
refrigerator, storage

Thread Tools Search this Thread
Search this Thread:

Advanced Search
Display Modes Rate This Thread
Rate This Thread:

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are Off
Pingbacks are Off
Refbacks are Off


Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Long term sailboat storage near Long Island Sound Joe500 General Sailing Forum 3 29-08-2016 12:14
Long-term Dry Storage chartertom General Sailing Forum 1 13-05-2009 06:31
Long Term Storage in Tropical Climate JamuJoe Construction, Maintenance & Refit 3 10-03-2009 16:54
Long term storage effects Cowboy Sailer Construction, Maintenance & Refit 5 09-03-2009 05:52
long Term Storage sjs Engines and Propulsion Systems 5 19-01-2007 13:46

Advertise Here


All times are GMT -7. The time now is 20:36.


Google+
Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.8 Beta 1
Copyright ©2000 - 2022, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.
Social Knowledge Networks
Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.8 Beta 1
Copyright ©2000 - 2022, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.

ShowCase vBulletin Plugins by Drive Thru Online, Inc.