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19-11-2011, 18:08
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Re: Is 'this' Possible, or Is it Suicide ?
Corey,
This the third thread I see you asking the same question in a different way but still getting the same answer.
I don't think you are going to get a different answer no matter how you ask it. The situation will remain the same.
What you propose is like going out to drive in the Inianapolis 500 the day you get your learner's permit.
Bottom line, there is no law to stop you from doing it so if you want to ignore the advise of a lot of experienced sailors it's your life to risk.
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19-11-2011, 18:21
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#17
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Senior Cruiser

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Re: Is 'this' Possible, or Is it Suicide ?
Go for it... everyones gotta be an idiot sometime in their life...
Who knows... maybe someone will get to make a few bucks writing your presumed history... (see Into the Wild)...
and Hollywood can do a Pacific version of Perfect Storm...
Hell... you may even confound everyone and make it...
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19-11-2011, 18:23
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Re: Is 'this' Possible, or Is it Suicide ?
Quote:
Originally Posted by Ex-Calif
I am almost always the, "go for it" guy.
In this case I am not. You can have lots of fun, learn a bunch and be safe in warm, temparate, protected waters with lots of options. Uphill in a big ocean at the wrong time of year can be uncomfortable at best and disastrous at worst.
There was a thread long ago of a guy who bought a cruising boat and decided to single hand to Hawaii. He made like 80 miles from the west coast before a rudder failure required a rescue and the boat was lost. He since became a credible sailor and perhaps equipment failure was his downfall but a week to practice in a boat and get ready it is not enough to know the boat and her almost sure to have shortcomings.
Is there a reason Vancouver is the destination?
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Ex-Calif has it right, Why Vancouver?
It sounds like you want an adventure, most adventureurs take time to get ready, train and have the knowledge to take the trip. I would think, if you had some time under you belt this would be possible, however at this point it seems foolish to me. IMHO
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19-11-2011, 18:36
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#19
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Re: Is 'this' Possible, or Is it Suicide ?
Some great advise here.... I like Mexico if you must go somewhere. Try the Cali Channel Islands and get back to us. There are a lot of us out here that had goofy ideas and some of us survived to tell you to rethink. There are so many better places to start out and learn. I recomnd the east coast... say Florida. Lots, no ...thousands .. of boats in that range and the Bahamas are a great first adventure. Not to mention WARM!
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19-11-2011, 19:11
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Re: Is 'this' Possible, or Is it Suicide ?
Sounds like a good plan.............for disaster.
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19-11-2011, 19:20
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Re: Is 'this' Possible, or Is it Suicide ?
Couples have sailed around the world successfully with one day of lessons.
GO FOR IT...
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19-11-2011, 19:23
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Re: Is 'this' Possible, or Is it Suicide ?
Unicorn... Whom?
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"Yes, well.. perhaps some more wine" (Julia Child)
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19-11-2011, 19:40
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Registered User
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Re: Is 'this' Possible, or Is it Suicide ?
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The winds blow true,The skies stay blue,
Everyday is a good day for SAILING!!!!
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19-11-2011, 19:42
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Re: Is 'this' Possible, or Is it Suicide ?
The question was: "is it possible?" well sure, ANYTHING is possible. Is it likely? No. your idea will put yourselves at significant risk. Thats OK. But you will also add significant risk to other sailors and rescue personnel. if you get into trouble and need assistance, other nearby vessels will be obligated to come to your assistance, putting themselves and their vessels at risk. You have a duty to other mariners to be able to operate your vessel in a safe and competent manner, and not undertake more than you can reasonably handle. You need more training and experience to undertake the voyage so described. I'm not against risk; I once flew off a cliff with a hang-glider, jettisoned it, did a screaming freefall for nearly 1000', before opening a parachute with a smoke canister attatched to one boot for the crowds below, and a 5 pound movie camera bolted to my helmet recorded the whole thing. You can assume risk when you have the training and experience to be able to assess it correctly. Get some training. Gain some experience. BTW, if you cross Sand Head at the mouth of the Fraser at the wrong time, your 25 foot boat may as well be a dinghy in a North Atlantic storm.
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19-11-2011, 19:55
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Re: Is 'this' Possible, or Is it Suicide ?
RE: Bumfuzzle , I rest my case... East coast start, Bahamas etc. Not to mention a class on a great lake. Not quite the same as uphill to BC on a 25 footer.
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19-11-2011, 19:55
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PS - in the category of adventure and starting out right, I like John Kretschmers story. While you are reading up on things try reading his book. He eventually doubled the horn but not on his first trip. In fact his first trips were probably the bigger adventures in terms of learning.
http://www.yayablues.com/capehorn.htm
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19-11-2011, 20:11
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Re: Is 'this' Possible, or Is it Suicide ?
Don't let the naysayers talk you out of it. Sailing is not that hard to learn. Tweaking the last 1/100 of a knot out of it is a different story...
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20-11-2011, 05:51
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Re: Is 'this' Possible, or Is it Suicide ?
Quote:
Originally Posted by coreyholmes
I have never sailed before. I am looking to buy a 25 foot sailboat with a friend who also has never sailed before. We've been reading alot though. When we get a boat we plan to practice for about a week and then sail from San Diego to Vancouver Island, Canada.
I think I we can do it haha but I want expierienced sailers advice. Is this possible or does it sound like a suicide trip?
Thanks!
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Hope you get the answer you want, as opposed to the other thread where you asked basically the same thing
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20-11-2011, 09:23
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Bad idea.
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20-11-2011, 09:36
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Re: Is 'this' Possible, or Is it Suicide ?
Our advise for what it is worth is to think of changing your plans a bit and buy the vessel in Vancouver..sail around for a season in the Gulf Islands, Desolation Sound etc etc. then take the boat DOWN. Tough trip but after some time up north you will know if you are ready or not.
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