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Old 01-01-2017, 10:16   #46
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How do you handle being sick.

You know that all mammals synthesize their own vitamin C except for primates and guinea pigs and maybe bats? Theory is these have large amounts of vitamin c in their diet and have no need to produce their own, except now humans do not consume high amounts of vitamin c anymore.
Interestingly if you just start taking large doses of vitamin c, your blood ascorbate level increases, but if you continue with these large doses, it decreases.
The study of vitamin c and the common cold is how we discovered zincs effect on the cold, you see commonly available vitamin c tablets were contaminated from the zinc on the machines that made the pills.
There is a lot of data,that supports high dosage of vitamin c on a continual basis and your health, but just like other common chemicals no drug company can make money off of it like they can a patented drug.
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Pauling's vitamin C theories have been debunked. Despite many years of scientific research, vitamin C has not been proven to ward off the common cold. Millions of people believe it, and practice it, but anecdoctal evidence is not scientific evidence. This well researched article is a very good place to start:

The Dark Side of Linus Pauling's Legacy

Most modern docs have had a lot of chemistry in undergrad and grad school, and have almost certainly heard of Pauling. The reason they don't "prescribe" Vitamin C at dosages above the Recommended Daily Allowance is that it doesn't work. Even the Linus Pauling Institute agrees with the consensus RDA for vitamin C.
You got it totally wrong.

Pauling's vitamin C theories have NOT been debunked. They have been "debunked" with distortions and lies by conventional medicine and its loyal ignorant minions.

With almost total certainty you can bet on, the people who call Pauling's theories unsubstantiated or ridicule Pauling are either (1) pawns and hacks of the massive business of conventional medicine, (2) unwitting people who repeat their propaganda, (3) people who never actually looked deeply into Pauling's work and dietary supplements, or (4) people who fall into a combination of the former categories.

Primarily it is the corrupt BUSINESS of orthodox medicine and their salespeople who keep ridiculing Pauling as some deluded quack Nobel Prize winner. And it doesn't take a genius to see why: Pauling had been threatening the huge bottom line of big corporate medicine. Here is a good current example of a hack MD who has been discrediting Pauling and supplements with disinformation and lies: read The True Facts about Vitamins, Side Effects of Dietary Supplements, and Dr. Linus Pauling

Gaining a good understanding of this nonsense and politics behind the continuous anti-supplement "studies" and news is worthwhile as not to become an unwitting victim of the propaganda disseminated by the pseudoscientific anti-supplement zealots.

Speaking of pseudoscientific anti-supplement zealots...

The link you provided to the quackwatch site as "proof" against Pauling's notions goes to a propaganda site run by the corrupt conventional medical business that publishes highly biased twisted misleading false pseudoscientific articles to discredit any remedy NOT coming from corporate medicine (for the truth about this fraudulent site read The Dark Side of Quackwatch.com ). You cannot discredit the truth with junk science and lies. Although the criminal medical business tries to do this on a daily basis. "Discrediting" the truth only reveals and discredits the liars.

Also, some scholars have alerted the public about the fact that since Linus Pauling left the Linus Pauling Institute it has changed dramatically and much of what they're now recommending isn't what Pauling had supported and advocated.
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Re: How do you handle being sick.

Availability of flu vaccine may be limited to elders in certain areas, and in any event, is seasonal. Life is different outside the US. At the time we got the flu, we were too young to take advantage of a flu shot, and never even considered it. It's easy in the States, harder elsewhere. I think blaming someone for getting sick in 1992, today, is unkind.

The time we got the flu, we were too sick with it to continue on, we never even kept watch! Too weak to get up the companionway. Heck, I had to rest on the settee on the way from the quarterberth to the head! It was frightening because I couldn't even keep a sip of water down for quite a while. Actually, my most frightening event at sea.

However, it only happened the one time that we were incapacitated, in 30 yrs. of cruising.

We did find ourselves with amoebas after leaving Mexico, but carried the metranizadole [flagyl] to treat it/them with. Was not nearly as serious as the flu was.

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... The link you provided to the quackwatch site as "proof" against Pauling's notions goes to a propaganda site run by the corrupt conventional medical business that publishes highly biased twisted misleading false pseudoscientific articles to discredit any remedy NOT coming from corporate medicine (for the truth about this fraudulent site read The Dark Side of Quackwatch.com ). ...
What Salvatore Anthony D'Onofrio, D.N.,D.D. (The protagonist in The Dark Side of Quackwatch.com article) himself claims to do and to NOT do.
http://www.healthguardians.com/Infor...nsent-Form.pdf
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How does everyone handle being sick at sea? Im not taking about sea sickness but more like the flu and colds?

How about if you are going single handed, how would you handle it?

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1) Head for port.

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What Salvatore Anthony D'Onofrio, D.N.,D.D. (The protagonist in The Dark Side of Quackwatch.com article) himself claims to do and to NOT do.
http://www.healthguardians.com/Infor...nsent-Form.pdf
ROTDLMAO!

The epitome of a quack!
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ROTDLMAO!

The epitome of a quack!
OK, I'll take the bait, what does this mean "ROTDLMAO!" ?
However, it's not nearly as confusing as the content of the quoted link which is full of spelling/ punctuation errors and strange accreditations,e.g.,"Dr D'Onofrio ,DN DD" Now keep in mind the above "Dr" title as you read the consent form (from the link) until coming upon this caveat with the "Dr"omitted:
"7. Salvatore Anthony D'Onofrio, D.N.,D.D., is NOT a medical doctor, nor portrays himself as such."
This is way off topic,I apologise and will refrain from doing so again for at least six months.
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Re: How do you handle being sick.

My practitioner is Dr. Vinny Boombatz. He also took care of the late Rodney Dangerfield.
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Capt. Gill,

RODLMAO means rolling on deck laughing my ass off.

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RODLMAO means rolling on deck laughing my ass off.

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Such unlady like language! Ann. Oh my!
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OK, I'll take the bait, what does this mean "ROTDLMAO!" ?
Rolling On The Deck, Laughing My Ass Off.

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However, it's not nearly as confusing as the content of the quoted link which is full of spelling/ punctuation errors and strange accreditations,e.g.,"Dr D'Onofrio ,DN DD"
DN = Doctor of Naturopathy (A quack discipline combining religion and dubious medical practices)
DD = Doctor of Divinity (The sort of degree you can get online from ULC etc just by filling out an online form)

Edit: Correction, Doctor of Naturopathy is ND, not DN.
This guys DN is Doctor of Nutripathy - that's the real quack one.

Edit 2: There is only one place I can find where you can get a DN, they come from a degree mill in Scotsdale Arizona which doesn't even have a website.
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Just for giggles:

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Re: How do you handle being sick.

Decide on just how sick you are. If there is a reasonable chance it's impacting your functioning get to shore ASAP. If you do not feel well enough to safely sail get to an anchorage If no better in a day or two a call for help. On the other hand, if it seems like a common cold or the flue, cut your work day, self medicate and drink lots of fluids. Just about the same rules as should you stay home or go to work but you should err on the side of safety.
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Yep, ages ago I got the flu shot for a number of years, & each year I got super sick. Including 104deg fever, in the hospital where the MD calls your family type sick. But since then no shots, & not sick at all.

Note that for me at least, if I start to notice feeling run down, Echinacea helps my body to stop anything such as a cold from even becoming a footnote in my medical history. Taking it for a couple of days seems to work wonders, so it's more than worth keeping some on hand.

The other good remedy/preventative is a hot toddy. Some lemon tea with a shot of scotch, or rum, & lots of honey. It too seems to help to stop any bug trying to take hold if you catch it early.

The catching things early being a key factor in getting sick or not. For me the red flag is a scratchy throat. What's yours?
Mine is pretty much the same, less scratchy than just a tightness. Usually feel it in the sinuses first.

Echinacea is great.

I like the hot toddy taste much better though, so usually follow one with the other!
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