Has anyone been following Greta and Boris Herrmmann?

[GordMay]

Nomination and selection of Peace Prize Laureates
There are 301 candidates for the Nobel Peace Prize for 2019 out of which 223 are individuals and 78 are organizations.
As StuM noted, neither the names of nominators, nor of nominees for the Nobel Peace Prize may be divulged until 50 years have elapsed.
The 2019 Nobel Peace Prize will be announced on Friday 11 October, 11:00 a.m.
➥ https://www.nobelprize.org/nomination/peace/
➥ https://www.nobelprize.org/prizes/peace/2019/summary/

I apologize for my speculative suggestion regarding Greta's nomination.


FWIW: I believe that both A Hitler & J Stalin were nominated, & perhaps D Trump.

[Boatyarddog]

Originally Posted by svenskflicka

I think I know a thing or two about Swedish politics....

Make no mistake she is a mouthpiece for her mother.

I'm all for being environmentally conscious. The point here is she is a child, who knows nothing about what makes the world go 'round. The left is using her. It's a publicity stunt, one that will ultimately produce more greenhouse gasses than if she had simply flown to NY and back... How she has any qualifications to speak to the UN is beyond me....

You know little of Greta.
Better a Lefist contributing to global awareness about a GLOBAL problem.
Than a conservative complaining about how they believe a child couldn't bring a message of hope to a World needing answers.
Some may remember Jesus.

She is inspiring, as odd as it may seem.
This is something that America hasn't seen recently.
And in need of badly.
Our system of capitalism Is Antiquated.
The boat was made not for this selfless venture, and not the fault of her cause.
It was made for other reasons.
Some would turn this into a vile attempt of the political sphere to change the course of the wave that is climate change.
Guess what, we're not going to change the climate our climate is changing us. We can only prepare for its arrival.
So, ignore what you cannot deal with, but the Left is moving on and will work to affect solutions to change what we can, as well instill awareness of the challenges we all will face.
We will do what we can to provide help to those that languished in the hopes that it's a hoax.
Clearly it is not!
Her mother knows much better what Gretas message is and what she needs, than anyone.
SV Cloud Duster

[jmorrison146]

Originally Posted by kenbo

You do realize that epoxy resin is petroleum based.

Of course. That's my point.

[double u]

Originally Posted by Exile

Perhaps not as many barrels of oil as it took to produce the $4M race boat that Greta sailed across the Atlantic on to selflessly enlighten us with her message. I just read that the crew were purchasing "offsets" to compensate for their jetting back to Europe. Have you purchased yours?

I suppose a current Open 60 racer has about the worst possible environmental impact: all carbon, kevlar, epoxy, titanium etc. Just the foils cost 160.000 to 180.000$! Rig 230.000 keel 130.000!
CO2 footprint?
How could they have done worse?

[double u]

ALARMISM- this is going to serve the cause best!

[boatman61]

Well theres a few million Remoaners and some Stalinists who seem to think ALARMISM is the way to go..

[Boatyarddog]

Originally Posted by double u

I suppose a current Open 60 racer has about the worst possible environmental impact: all carbon, kevlar, epoxy, titanium etc. Just the foils cost 160.000 to 180.000$! Rig 230.000 keel 130.000!
CO2 footprint?
How could they have done worse?

Uhh... Again?
The boat was already manufactured, happened years ago.
They didn't build the boat for the trip.
Naysayers, deniers, sorry your inconvenienced by Climate Change, but millions are going to be inconvenienced by relocation issues due to Sea Level Rise.
If your not Part of the Solution, your a big part of the problem.
You don't want to help? Get outta the way of those that are concerned, and are helping.
Alarmism is no problem, stubborn ignorance is just fear and denial.
There is irrefutable proof the ice cap are melting at unprecedented rates.

Also, the CO2 in the atmosphere was released maybe 7 to 10 yrs ago, and we are now seeing the effects of it.
That means in 10 more years we will have more than we can reverse.
Alarmism? Ha, were already set for major disaster.

This thread was about current climate issues and those willing to help.
Nothing wrong with those trying to save others and themselves.
Have a great day!
SV Cloud Duster

[StuM]

Originally Posted by Boatyarddog

...
Better a Lefist contributing to global awareness about a GLOBAL problem.
...
Guess what, we're not going to change the climate our climate is changing us. We can only prepare for its arrival.
So, ignore what you cannot deal with, but the Left is moving on and will work to affect solutions to change what we can, as well instill awareness of the challenges we all will face.

You appear to be very confused. St Greta and the whole cabal of alarmists are not urging adaptation and preparation.



Quite the opposite, they reckon they have the solution to "climate change".

[Exile]

Originally Posted by boatman61

Well theres a few million Remoaners and some Stalinists who seem to think ALARMISM is the way to go..

It's usually what sells best, but it seems to be wearing rather thin these days. But it won't stop them from trying. I'm sure it's been around awhile, but lately I seem to be hearing more "climate crisis" lingo.

[Boatyarddog]

Originally Posted by StuM

You appear to be very confused. St Greta and the whole cabal of alarmists are not urging adaptation and preparation.



Quite the opposite, they reckon they have the solution to "climate change".

We do its called awareness and change.
Don't and we'll see what's going to happen.
IMO, we will not change till we are threatened on so many fronts we'll have no choice by to react to the environment.
This Threat has been made aware of for so many years and dismissed as lunacy.
So, now we see it's happening.

Only thing left is preparation and adaptation.
But, your still disrespecting the intent of others to help as best they can.
While you armchair your judgments for their selflessness, that's just wrong!
Very SAD
Good day STU...
SV Cloud Duster

[seandepagnier]

The decision to sail reminds us that this form of transportation can more ecological.

We need to fix the mailing services. A few years ago it used to be possible to mail packages overseas very cheaply by ships (not even sailing!) and it took a few weeks. Now the postal service dropped sea mail and everything must fly and the price is very high. This is a cost burden to many of us and it also is harmful but most of us have no alternative.

We have the technology to make transportation by sail available and it is more viable than ever with technology advances. Historically it was possible to travel by clipper.

Ships can carry thousands of people. Ships can use the power of the wind. It cost a lot less to transport things by sea, everyone know this.

Why can I not buy a ticket by sea for a small fraction of the cost of flying??

[a64pilot]

Originally Posted by mikedefieslife

Not sure why this has even been in the news. A young girl on a fully crewed boat goes sailing. Don't cruisers with families have young children onboard most of the time and cross oceans.

EDIT: I know I shouldn't post if I don't have anything positive to say, but I really just don't get this one.

That makes two of us, when I first heard of it I assumed she was on a small boat and she was maybe Solo and an accomplished sailor in her own right.
I didn’t think she was a passenger on a multi million dollar racing yacht with a full crew.
What’s the accomplishment?

[sailasia]

I wonder if there was any guns onboard? Do you think they should have carried them if they did have them?

[a64pilot]

As much as I would love to see sailing boats carrying passengers and hauling freight, it’s just not economical.
The reason Clipper ships went by the way side is they were like the Concorde, they cost too much to operate.
That hasn’t changed, but I’d love to see Clipper ships I really would

[Exile]

Originally Posted by a64pilot

That makes two of us, when I first heard of it I assumed she was on a small boat and she was maybe Solo and an accomplished sailor in her own right.
I didn’t think she was a passenger on a multi million dollar racing yacht with a full crew.
What’s the accomplishment?

Think "white horse." As in riding sailing in to save us from ourselves. Besides, the sailboat thingy sells better. Btw, I wonder how she's getting home?