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Old 30-06-2018, 13:44   #76
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Just a note about barrel lengths. Canada does not have a minimum barrel length of 18 inches. The required length is a TOTAL gun length of 26 inches. The barrel can be as short as the manufacturer found suitable to make. They must have been manufactured with that barrel length, you can't cut them yourselves!

Dominion arms makes some, and I think remington used to make some. Anyway, they're fun little guns, and great for self defense, if a little shy on firepower. Single and double barrel. So 13 inch and 8.5 inch barrel lengths.

https://www.canadaammo.com/product/d...otgun-12-gauge



Or how about this one.
https://www.canadaammo.com/product/d...agfed-shotgun/




Kenomac likes pistol grip and stock, here's one with a 14" barrel.



http://www.bullseyelondon.com/canuck...ht-bronze.html

And the Remington. https://www.remington.com/other-prod...del-870-tac-14



The only time I've ever seen anything sold in Canada that gives US shooters "gun envy" are these little shorties. Backpackers, hikers, coach guns...

These guns are "non restricted", which means that anybody with a PAL can buy one. The perfect "prepper's" gun.

Oh yeah. Semi auto is fine to have here. No full auto, period.


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Thanks for the clarification on overall vs. barrel length I had mistakenly thought the regs were based on.

Re: semi-autos, are they "fine" only for Canadian citizens/residents, or also for visiting non-citizens/residents?
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Semi autos should be legal for everyone with a permit or PAL. Just get your ducks in a row before coming, to be sure. I personally don't see why it would be a problem. To my knowledge, there are no differences in "allowed" firearms, between citizens and visitors. Just different "permits".

The regulations state which firearms are non-restricted, restricted, or prohibited. I've never seen any mention of citizenship within the rules.

By the way. All guns are called "firearms" here, not weapons. I was told by my firearms officer that firearms are for hunting and shooting, weapons are used on humans. So to keep the constabulary on your side, just call them firearms.

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Yep, have to get the nomenclature correct
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Ken, I suggest you look into a box of scare cartridges. I have seen them used to good effect.
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AH My comment above was for hunting regulations not simple possession. It is the hunting regulations in Eastern Canada that require a plug in chamber of 5 shot shotgun.
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Ken, I suggest you look into a box of scare cartridges. I have seen them used to good effect.
Take your flare gun if hiking. Group from Sierra Wilderness Club in Torngat Nat'l Park, was able to get a polar bear to drop the lawyer it was dragging away by the head by using flares. They had declined an armed guide and set up a portable electric fence around their campsite. The bear was heard muttering "now I'm really pissed" as it walked through the fence.
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Take your flare gun if hiking. Group from Sierra Wilderness Club in Torngat Nat'l Park, was able to get a polar bear to drop the lawyer it was dragging away by the head by using flares. They had declined an armed guide and set up a portable electric fence around their campsite. The bear was heard muttering "now I'm really pissed" as it walked through the fence.
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I have taken shotguns into Canada to hunt. It is clearly allowed. Crossing in the Detroit area. Many times, Canadian Customs said "no guns." Sir, please look at your own damn regulations. OK, you're right, its OK. US authorities about as stupid.
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By the way. All guns are called "firearms" here, not weapons. I was told by my firearms officer that firearms are for hunting and shooting, weapons are used on humans. So to keep the constabulary on your side, just call them firearms.

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Which military? Isn't that what Military does, shoot people?
In the US Navy they are called a "piece".
As the old saying goes "this is my piece, this is my gun. This is for shooting, this is for fun".

This is my Mossberg.... I wouldn't use the handle alone. It'd be too hard on the wrist. It would be nice to have a butt/handle combo though. But then, it would take a larger case for storage.

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We entered Canada via Lake Champlain with a shotgun. After reviewing the available information on-line, I filled out the RCMP forms, and took the paperwork and the gun to the Canada Customs Dock (Quai Richeliue). I was told "You cannot bring a gun into Canada on a boat". I protested, telling them that per the RCMP, it's permissible. The officer said the RCMP doesn't control the border. Since we were already in Canada, we were given two choices: 1. They would let us export the gun to the U.S. if we turned around. 2. We could abandon the gun. Since we were doing the loop, we chose option 2 and gave them the gun. See the attached form.



My advice is don't bring any gun into Canada on a boat. If you declare it, you will lose the gun. If you don't declare it, and you get caught, you will go to jail.
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If you refer to an AR15 as an assault rifle I immediately bypass all your other comments.
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Petty distinction. Just say you think civilians should be allowed to own them rather than dickering over the terminology.
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The facts are that guns kill, Please leave it home, we have enough crazies already.
You must have missed the ďno lectures please ď bit 😎
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Delmarry:

In my previous post, "firearms, not weapons". The firearms officer of which I speak is not a military firearms officer. This person was the person who tests people in Canada, who are applying for an FAC (Firearms acquisition certificate). I believe he's a member of the RCMP, as that's the office where I took the test.

Jreyn1944: I'm sorry you got that sort of response from the Border control. Unfortunately, you entered Canada via Quebec, who often think of themselves as their own country. They certainly tend to have their own rules, and the officialdom there is often quite against civilians possessing guns of any sort.

I've known others to bring firearms into Canada by boat, at least through Nova Scotia, and they did not have the problem you had.


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Petty distinction. Just say you think civilians should be allowed to own them rather than dickering over the terminology.
An "assault rifle" was terminology first applied to fully automatic rifles used by German "assault" troops in WWII. An AR-15 is a semi-automatic rifle designed & sold for civilian use, not unlike countless other types of semi-automatic rifles designed & sold for civilian use in the U.S. An M-16 is a select-fire rifle designed & sold strictly for military use. It has both semi-auto and fully-automatic functions. I don't think there's anything "petty" about the distinction, nor does the U.S. Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco & Firearms.

We now know you personally don't like guns, but would you mind if the thread got back to "Gun Laws for Canada" for those of us who aren't so disposed?
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