Govt Shutdown Impact on Boaters

[ozskipper]

Originally Posted by Jimbo485

As a foreigner, I have no right to stick my nose into your affairs but ........ we (the rest of the world) are starting to think it might be time to follow the previous examples of the mighty USA.

So, we invent a catchy name like "Operation Working Democracy USA," form a coalition of like-minded countries, invade your country (directly at Washington and bypass Hawaii), stand down your politicians, pass some new laws so you DO have an effective working democracy, impose martial law for a couple of years, put your faulty leaders up against a court of law to analyse where they went wrong, punish them accordingly, retrain the general populace with modern thinking and expectations, call an election, supervise it closely to avoid trouble in Florida again and then withdraw to our countries after a job well done.

But then again, I am not a citizen of the USA, so it is none of my business! Although it is very funny...

That is funny, Dont forget that in the "election" (ehem) the coalition only allows electees who will provide a "mutual benefit" and anyone who tries to stop the coalition is shot as an insurgent. Too far? Gotta laugh though, as my own country is guilty of backing our US mates in every "freedom operation" since ww2. Hope they sort it out soon though.

[Lake-Effect]

Originally Posted by Kenomac

The United States is not a "presidential democracy;" we have a democratically elected republic form of government.... Which has morphed into a socialist democracy over the past 50 years.

The US governing structure is a "presidential democracy". Structure has little to do with what way it leans. I confess, when I look at the US, I don't see socialism as the dominant lean. Could just be me...

[Wraith_Mac]

Originally Posted by hellosailor

This is about a large number of infants throwing a fit and walking off the job.

Serious question.
Are they [politicians] still being paid?
Mac

[sailorchic34]

Originally Posted by Wraith_Mac

Serious question.
Are they [politicians] still being paid?
Mac

Oddly enough Yes. They made the laws that way.

[sailorchic34]

Maybe we can get the Queen of England to abolish the republic. I'm pretty sure the signers of the Declaration of Independence had no idea that congress would be the laughing stock of the world. Gee I would be happy if Fance or even Greece invaded.

[scoobert]

Originally Posted by sailorchic34

Gee I would be happy if Fance or even Greece invaded.

i have heard nonsensical things before, but that takes the cake.

[got seashells?]

The worst part about it (well sort of) is that the people in the states don't truly care. We go to work and come home and handle our business.

I wonder if they realize how truly sad they look. It's kind of like I'm taking my toys and going home if I can't have it my way?

Well, ok. Go home stop drawing your pay check, and good luck getting another job.....that is not going to look so good on a resume.....
Reason for leaving your last job? I didn't like the rules

[sailorchic34]

Originally Posted by scoobert

i have heard nonsensical things before, but that takes the cake.

You say the sweetest things....

[sailorchic34]

Congress has had a total of 15 bills passed this year. They include:

HR 258: Stolen Valor Act of 2013 (A new version of the law against claiming, falsely, to be a veteran. The last version was struck down by SCOTUS.)

HR 325: No Budget, No Pay Act of 2013 (The punt that delayed the debt limit.)

HR 475: To amend the Internal Revenue Code of 1986 to include vaccines against seasonal influenza within the definition of taxable vaccines.

HR 1246: District of Columbia Chief Financial Officer Vacancy Act

This out of over 4000 bills refereed to committee this year. 15 Bill total for the year and nothing really important either. To put this in perspective, in 2005 on today's date, then president "W" signed into law 13 bills.

I call that totally ineffective government. If you had employees that ineffective you would fire them. Which I hope we all do next election. So yes when you compare the current congress to any other government in the world including France and even Greece, Ours is running strongly in last place.

Oh and to get this back to boating, congress also passed The Freedom to Fish Act, which opens boating access around dams in Kentucky. Now that's Impressive government...

[Sailormantx]

Originally Posted by roverhi

Interesting that the normally open 24/7/365 monuments in DC have been shut down at great expense to move in barriers with police while the golf course at Andrews AFB is open for the priveleged to use. Believe it is quite obvious that the administration has made it Federal policy to use the shut down as an excuse to make it as painfully unpleasant as they can.

That's my take on it too. It looks more about making a big publicity stunt than saving $$. After all people have been enjoying parks and seashores etc since before this country existed. Close the buildings and go home if you are not getting paid, but why prevent people from using what is rightfully theirs? Evidently there are many who think Americans cannot even enjoy a visit to a monument or a park without being supervised by federal government employees. That whole crew in Washington is making us look pretty foolish here, like others have said it is time for a whole new crew. I hope nobodies cruising plans get held up waiting for documents and passports delayed by this mess.

[Jimbo485]

Well............. we (the rest of the world) are NOT going to invade and sort out your problems.

So you will have to ask your own military to step in and fire the ineffective ones.

The rest of the world does it quite often, you lot have done it before.

Get moving!!!

[markpierce]

U.S.A. and California legislatures pass too many bills/laws. Generally, I feel safer when they aren't in session. I would welcome constitutional amendments requiring the termination of one law for each new one.

[ElGatoGordo]

Thank you to those who read the title of the thread and commented on how this effects boaters. To those wishing to discuss politics and blame people, there are better places. IMHO of course

[Emmalina]

America was not shut down properly. Would you like to start America in safe mode, with free healthcare & without the guns? (Recommended)

[ShaunJ]

[QUOTE=Emmalina;1356636]America was not shut down properly. Would you like to start America in safe mode, with free healthcare & without the guns? (Recommended)[/

No safe mode sounds worse