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17-01-2013, 12:47
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Join Date: Jan 2013
Posts: 94
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Re: Good Insurance Company ?!?!
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Originally Posted by Reefmagnet
x2 and they have now set up an office in aus.
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And they are slow to do anything and refused at least two boats i am aware of in the last week or so after messing around for a few weeks. Not interested in one quarter tonner (26ft) and one 39 foot ex charter yacht, both in excellent condition and with survey reports, because they are on swing moorings in the Whitsundays.
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17-01-2013, 12:50
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#17
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Registered User
Join Date: Oct 2010
Location: Kentucky, Little River, SC
Boat: Leopard 47 Catamaran
Posts: 97
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Re: Good Insurance Company ?!?!
IMIS Jackline Policy. Older boat minimum crew wide insured area.++
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17-01-2013, 13:06
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#18
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Registered User
Join Date: Oct 2010
Location: Oregon
Boat: 57' Laurent Giles Yawl
Posts: 755
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Re: Good Insurance Company ?!?!
We are paying just under 2% of the insured value for the Caribbean waters, with named storm coverage. It would cost about a third less if we were to put her on the hard for the hurricane season. This is with NAGICO, through Northeastern Insurances in St Maarten.
I think we paid about 4 or 5% when we were in the South Pacific and Indian Oceans. We had much less experience at the time, and I wonder if it will be less expensive if we decide to be insured for those waters next time. I know of similarly inexperienced people on a larger boat (> 48') who were unable to get coverage for the South Pacific with a crew of 2. They had to take on a third person.
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17-01-2013, 13:22
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#19
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Marine Service Provider
Join Date: Oct 2009
Location: In the U.S.
Boat: FP Tobago 35 [sold]
Posts: 425
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Pantaneus US will only insure vessels > 500k in value as of 2 months ago. They are a good company however, especially if you are non-US.
For world cruising, the UK insurers seem to be the best from my research. We use Royal and Sun Assurance (RSA) as they have the best total coverage I have ever seen, even cover wars and riots  . In Colon, Panama, you never know when that might come in handy.
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17-01-2013, 13:29
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#20
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Registered User
Join Date: Jul 2012
Location: Portland, Maine
Boat: Caliber 40LRC
Posts: 609
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Re: Good Insurance Company ?!?!
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Originally Posted by kiltym
Pantaneus US will only insure vessels > 500k in value as of 2 months ago. They are a good company however, especially if you are non-US...
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Not true. That only applies to vessels in the Caribbean during storm season.
They just bound my policy today for $218,500(hull, tender and personal effects) in the US with live aboard. Premium is $1,700 and i can sail the entire Canadian east coast and US east coast north of Florida and out to Bermuda.
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17-01-2013, 13:49
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#21
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Marine Service Provider
Join Date: Oct 2009
Location: In the U.S.
Boat: FP Tobago 35 [sold]
Posts: 425
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Re: Good Insurance Company ?!?!
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Originally Posted by Tim R.
Not true. That only applies to vessels in the Caribbean during storm season.
They just bound my policy today for $218,500(hull, tender and personal effects) in the US with live aboard. Premium is $1,700 and i can sail the entire Canadian east coast and US east coast north of Florida and out to Bermuda.
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Glad to hear this, and I guess they provided a better explanation to you then me. My email back from them simply stated no vessel < 500k. There is another thread on here where someone reported the same thing. Perhaps now they are explaining the restrictions. They are a good company, and may well have used them ourselves if they provided coverage to us.
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The Wirie AP+ and The Wirie pro - Long Range Marine WiFi and 2/3/4G Systems
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17-01-2013, 14:19
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Registered User
Join Date: Jul 2012
Location: Portland, Maine
Boat: Caliber 40LRC
Posts: 609
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Re: Good Insurance Company ?!?!
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Originally Posted by kiltym
Glad to hear this, and I guess they provided a better explanation to you then me. My email back from them simply stated no vessel < 500k. There is another thread on here where someone reported the same thing. Perhaps now they are explaining the restrictions. They are a good company, and may well have used them ourselves if they provided coverage to us.
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I have been dealing with Laurie Morrison and she has been awesome. You can reach her at lmorrison<at>pantaenius.com
Please let her know I referred you if you contact her.
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17-01-2013, 14:30
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#23
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Registered User
Join Date: Aug 2003
Boat: Dragonfly 1000 trimaran
Posts: 7,011
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Re: Good Insurance Company ?!?!
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Originally Posted by boatsail
I too have progressive for about a buck ten a year. For what I want it for, perfect!
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What happens when they don't pay (like SAFECO)?
YOU can be personally sued.
Think about it.
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17-01-2013, 15:24
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#24
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Registered User
Join Date: Nov 2008
Location: Bayfield, Lake Superior, WI & Wayzata, MN
Boat: C&C 34 & Sonar One Design
Posts: 369
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Re: Good Insurance Company ?!?!
I don't read anyone having Boat US coverage and am thinking of switching from Progressive to them. Any comments?
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17-01-2013, 15:31
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Join Date: Apr 2011
Posts: 2,484
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Re: Good Insurance Company ?!?!
State Farm and Boat US came in with similar quotes, but Boat US wanted me to re-do the survey - not detailed enough! So I'm with State Farm now.
Progressive had the most ridiculously high quote with the poorest coverage.
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17-01-2013, 16:26
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#26
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Marine Service Provider
Join Date: Jul 2011
Location: Stuart Fl
Boat: Cabo Rico 38
Posts: 726
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Re: Good Insurance Company ?!?!
Boats US for 30 plus years and at least 15 different boats both power and sail.Have had 3 claim's.No personal injury's just damaged boat's 2 hitting sumerged object's in power boat's and a lighting strike in the Bahamas on a sailboat.Thay paid OK but the current rate's and some of the prievous post have me wondering.currently paying 2400.00 a year on a cabo Rico 38 60,000 replacement and 500,000.00 liability plus the psl effects 10,000.00 E coast US bahamas.Power boat a 25 ft Carolina Classic is a bargin 523.00 a year.
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17-01-2013, 17:13
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#27
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Registered User
Join Date: Nov 2012
Location: La Marque, TX
Boat: Dovekie 21
Posts: 712
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Quote:
Originally Posted by senormechanico
What happens when they don't pay (like SAFECO)?
YOU can be personally sued.
Think about it.
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1) I've never heard of a problem with them paying, have you?
2) this is for ubber cheap liability to make a Marina happy, not for a high dollar boat or a person who had a lot of money to be sued for.
3) I'm getting what I pay for, which ain't much!
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17-01-2013, 20:32
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Registered User
Join Date: Aug 2003
Boat: Dragonfly 1000 trimaran
Posts: 7,011
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Re: Good Insurance Company ?!?!
Read my thread:
http://www.cruisersforum.com/forums/...oat-91941.html
They not only refused my claim when their insured hit me, (and I had FOUR witnesses) but they also refused my neighbor's claim as well when their insured damaged their dock in the same incident.
To add insult to injury, their refusal letters for compensation for the damages included a very snarky paragraph which warned us of filing a false claim which they would prosecute to the fullest extent of the law!
F' em. SAFECO is a CRAP COMPANY !!!!!!!!!
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17-01-2013, 21:32
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#29
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Registered User
Join Date: Nov 2012
Location: La Marque, TX
Boat: Dovekie 21
Posts: 712
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Quote:
Originally Posted by senormechanico
F' em. SAFECO is a CRAP COMPANY !!!!!!!!!
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I remember that thread...sucks for sure. Did you sue? If not, I'm sure there's a reason. But I've never mentioned SAFECO....confused...is it the same company as Progressive? Strange, and all too frequent on CF, way of attacking others.
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17-01-2013, 21:41
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#30
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Registered User
Join Date: Jan 2010
Location: Narragansett Bay
Boat: Able 50
Posts: 3,139
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Re: Good Insurance Company ?!?!
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Originally Posted by ElGatoGordo
For just local liability progressive's prices can't be beat. Depends what you want.
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I'm with Progressive but it's only a liability policy. There's change from $200 so the price is good. The zone is only Mexico - USA - Canada.
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