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Old 20-10-2021, 10:22   #31
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Re: Getting a mast on a boat WITHOUT a real crane

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Old 20-10-2021, 11:00   #32
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I saw a guy lift his mast off his deck from a bridge. It was a county gravel road with very little traffic. Line to mast and thru his bow roller to a truck winch bolted in his anchor locker with a block at the bridge. Seemed it worked ok.

We would routinely put up our mast on a smaller Catalina using the boom as a pivot point and winch it up. Though, I couldn't imagine cranking up our 50' mast.

Cranes have a critical angle due to weight it is lifting. The more vertical, the greater the lift weight. I have used a Skyjack many times. They will have better lifting than a boom truck IMO. I have seen guys put 20 sheets of sheetrock through a window of a house. they are much heavier than your mast. Have a good operator running the SKyjack. Rent for $250 per day, in my memory. May have a delivery fee, They come by tractor trailer.
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Is it critical that you unstep the mast at your marina, rather than another marina (hopefully nearby) with a travelift with mast gin pole.
You will be moving the boat by truck, correct?
Holy cow. LOL.

Nothing about this post even remotely resembles the situation.

1) the mast is on the ground
2) not stepping the mast, just putting it on deck as described in the first post
3) I’m moving the boat and mast by water
4) my boat blocks 3 highway lanes in width. It can’t be moved by truck.
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Old 20-10-2021, 11:48   #34
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Re: Getting a mast on a boat WITHOUT a real crane

There are lots of trucks around here,mostly used to deliver construction materials, with "stingers" aboard: cranes that can extend out fifty feet or more and deliver a load of drywall four stories up.

My big concern would be, if it had to prk on grass, that it could get a firm enough footing for the outriggers.
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Chotu,

This may have already been considered but I recall following your thread regarding purchasing and transporting the mast via your custom made trailer/truck. Are you able to move the boat via water then return and tow the mast to your new location using the same system you used when you purchased it?

I am sure you have thought of this and perhaps the distance is too great for such a plan to be feasible.

If not, then a Gradall style articulating forklift will certainly handle the weight and have the needed extension. We used to use the large ones to move full bunks of plywood and other lumber that I am sure weighed much more than your estimated mast weight and we routinely extend these heavy loads 30-40 feet out via the extension boom. Heck, we even once picked up a full size car with one when it had been abandoned on our worksite in the middle of the night.

Just trying to throw out random ideas hoping something might stick.

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Yes, it’s still on the very same trailer. It’s not easy driving get thing. Easier to move it by boat.


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Chotu,

This may have already been considered but I recall following your thread regarding purchasing and transporting the mast via your custom made trailer/truck. Are you able to move the boat via water then return and tow the mast to your new location using the same system you used when you purchased it?

I am sure you have thought of this and perhaps the distance is too great for such a plan to be feasible.

If not, then a Gradall style articulating forklift will certainly handle the weight and have the needed extension. We used to use the large ones to move full bunks of plywood and other lumber that I am sure weighed much more than your estimated mast weight and we routinely extend these heavy loads 30-40 feet out via the extension boom. Heck, we even once picked up a full size car with one when it had been abandoned on our worksite in the middle of the night.

Just trying to throw out random ideas hoping something might stick.

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Re: Getting a mast on a boat WITHOUT a real crane

A buddy of mine (Corbin 39) pulled up to the bridge at Oswego NY. and used a block and tackle from the bridge to haul his mast and lay it on the deck.
He is an extraordinarily determined and inventive character.
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A buddy of mine (Corbin 39) pulled up to the bridge at Oswego NY. and used a block and tackle from the bridge to haul his mast and lay it on the deck.
He is an extraordinarily determined and inventive character.


Ha! I know this bridge. I had the marina do it there and re-stepped at Castleton-on Hudson with a manual crane on the other side.

But my mast is on the ground. In the grass. In a field I can cozy up to with the boat.
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Re: Getting a mast on a boat WITHOUT a real crane

I run a small electric utility in Nova Scotia. Been a keel boat sailor for 30+ years. Don't know everything. Tree trucks are not designed to lift heavy weights, nor are scissor lifts and manhandlers. Some utility bucket trucks can, one of ours can put a 2000# transformer most anyplace you want it.


But here we can rent a straight boom truck with an experienced operator for $150-200 CDN an hour. Can't imagine that's not possible in Florida.


Use the side approach {operator can see what he/she is doing}, pick up the mast at two points equadistant from balance point with a spreader bar, use tag lines both ends to control swing. Could use two lines each end as long as nobody on the boat walks off. No half-hitches around the wrist, please.


Hope this helps, bon chance.


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Hire a lull and be done with it, stop trying to reinvent the wheel, this is not rocket surgery.
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Hire a lull and be done with it, stop trying to reinvent the wheel, this is not rocket surgery.
Unhelpful fellow, aren't you?
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Unhelpful fellow, aren't you?
My response is the correct one. Atleast i know what a lull is.
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My response is the correct one. Atleast i know what a lull is.
Are you 10?

In any case, you probably are right, but this is exactly why I asked. I asked WHAT NON-CRANE THING CAN I USE TO PUT THE MAST ON THE DECK?

How is asking reinventing? What’s your beef anyway?
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Chotu:

In every urban area of any size there will be what we Canadians call a "cartage company". They will have a flatbed truck with a hydraulic crane on it. The crane - and therefore the whole truck - is called a "HIAB" (Swedish for "Hydraulic Industries, Inc.").

Scorpius touched on it above. As it happens, I paid a lot of my living expenses and tuition fees when I was at university owning and operating one of those. I've done the number with pallets of drywall going up four stories lotsa times. Nothing to it really.

If I still had that machine and could get next to you boat, as you say is possible, I'd be off the road and set up, have your mast aboard your boat - flat on deck or stepped - and be outta there again in about half an hour.

Here is a pic of the sort of thing you need. Don't muck about with anything else. Just hire one of these with a competent operator from a local cartage company No fuss, no muss, no bother - and the liability is the cartage company's :-).

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In every urban area of any size there will be what we Canadians call a "cartage company". They will have a flatbed truck with a hydraulic crane on it. The crane - and therefore the whole truck - is called a "HIAB" (Swedish for "Hydraulic Industries, Inc.").

Scorpius touched on it above. As it happens, I paid a lot of my living expenses and tuition fees when I was at university owning and operating one of those. I've done the number with pallets of drywall going up four stories lotsa times. Nothing to it really.

If I still had that machine and could get next to you boat, as you say is possible, I'd be off the road and set up, have your mast aboard your boat - flat on deck or stepped - and be outta there again in about half an hour.

Here is a pic of the sort of thing you need. Don't muck about with anything else. Just hire one of these with a competent operator from a local cartage company No fuss, no muss, no bother - and the liability is the cartage company's :-).

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Ok cool!!

I had always used marina cranes throughout my life and once, a manual crane I ran.

I think I have some good information here and shouldn’t have any real issues.

The biggest issue I have is the need to watch for a holes making wakes while I do this. It’s not uncommon for 60ft power boats to fly by in semi displacement mode. I’ll have to pull the boat back away from the shore of one does. Also, the machine operator will need to back off if this happens.
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