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30-06-2012, 21:46
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Join Date: Nov 2011
Location: Branched Oak Yacht Club, Wife is an Admiral in the Nebraska Navy
Boat: Clipper Marine 32 CC Aft Cabin Ketch
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For Fun: Helm Steer or Helm Tiller ?
Post your preference and add the running total.
Post a pic if you a mind to.
I am upgrading from 20" to 30". So I am interested in what the rest of you are holding in the wind. Mine is a new boat to me, and that small wheel is not to my preference. I have room, so I am going bigger.
Steer : 1. Tiller: 0
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01-07-2012, 12:58
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Join Date: May 2009
Location: Lorient, Brittany, France
Boat: Gib'Sea 302, 30' - Hydra
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Re: For Fun: Helm Steer or Helm Tiller ?
I suppose you upgrade from 20 feet to 30 feet of boat. Or is it from 20 inches to 30 inches of wheel  ?
For me, it's a tiller on a 30' boat.
Alain
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01-07-2012, 13:35
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Join Date: Sep 2007
Location: Southampton UK
Boat: Jaguar 22 mono called Arfur.
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Re: For Fun: Helm Steer or Helm Tiller ?
A wheel is good if it's good, no play, good response. And right is right, sorry, starboard.
A tiller is more limiting in seating position, better suited to Autohelm Pilot that clips on.
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01-07-2012, 13:59
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Join Date: Jun 2012
Location: Jasper, TX
Boat: Pacific Seacraft Flicka
Posts: 9
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Re: For Fun: Helm Steer or Helm Tiller ?
I vote for the tiller. Of course I have a tiller.
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01-07-2012, 14:11
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Location: Lorient, Brittany, France
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Re: For Fun: Helm Steer or Helm Tiller ?
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A tiller is more limiting in seating position, better suited to Autohelm Pilot that clips on.
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Eleven,
The picture I posted seems to disprove your assertion. With the tiller extension, I don't feel limited in position. I can even helm from the "sugar scoop" stern (did it a few times, e.g. for solo MOB drills). But generally, I helm seated on the windside coaming, because it's the best place to see the waves coming and to check the telltales on the genoa.
But I agree it requires some adapation. I don't remember that time, for I learned to helm when I was young  , more than 10 years before learning to drive.
Helming with a wheel, I feel like I'm driving a truck.
Alain
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01-07-2012, 14:15
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Join Date: May 2012
Location: Baltimore, MD
Boat: Cal 2-27
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Re: For Fun: Helm Steer or Helm Tiller ?
Tiller anytime. Better feel.
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01-07-2012, 14:37
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Moderator

Join Date: Aug 2009
Location: Solent, England
Boat: Moody 31
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Re: For Fun: Helm Steer or Helm Tiller ?
We have both, the tiller being mainly used for the auto pilot. I am happy with either, but SHMBO wanted a wheel.
Pete
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01-07-2012, 18:03
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Join Date: May 2007
Location: Ohio
Boat: Now boatless :-(
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30 feet and less = tiller for me...
It's not about feel for me but complexity. Autopilot, rudder position indicator etc... All simpler with tiller. Also tilt up and out of the way at anchor.
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01-07-2012, 19:00
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Join Date: May 2012
Location: Baltimore, MD
Boat: Cal 2-27
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Re: For Fun: Helm Steer or Helm Tiller ?
Why don't we see the tiller as an option on boats in the 30-40 ft range?
I feel as if the wheel takes up valuable space in the cockpit.
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01-07-2012, 19:13
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Join Date: Nov 2011
Location: Branched Oak Yacht Club, Wife is an Admiral in the Nebraska Navy
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Re: For Fun: Helm Steer or Helm Tiller ?
Sorry about the confusion, my sailboat is 32 feet and I am changing from a 20 inch wheel to a 30 inch wheel.
Looks like so far the tillers are in the lead.
I have had 5 tiller sailboats from 12 feet to 32 feet, and this is my first wheel helm. I prefer a wheel.
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01-07-2012, 19:57
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Join Date: Aug 2007
Location: Seattle WA
Boat: Nauticat
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Re: For Fun: Helm Steer or Helm Tiller ?
Tiller mounted autopilots suck. Get a wheel with a proper robust autopilot you can rely on. If you are worried about cockpit space at anchor get a folding wheel or one that detaches easily. A wheel is often less of a workout when hand steering as well, at least if you're boat is of any size....
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01-07-2012, 20:03
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Join Date: May 2009
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Re: For Fun: Helm Steer or Helm Tiller ?
FOR FUN, I'd pick the opposite of whats on my boat just to play with something new. =)
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01-07-2012, 21:13
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Your post was not directed at me, but it is a thread I started, and I did not start it to get a response like yours.
Tiller AP's suck? Really? Who knew? OK, everyone with a tiller, sink your boats and report directly to the nearest marina where they only sell wheel helm sailboats. Don't let this happen again! Lol
I am offended at the harshness and narrow sightedness Of your post. Makes me wish I never started such a thread.
I apologize.
For the rest of us, continue on!
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Originally Posted by minaret
Tiller mounted autopilots suck. Get a wheel with a proper robust autopilot you can rely on. If you are worried about cockpit space at anchor get a folding wheel or one that detaches easily. A wheel is often less of a workout when hand steering as well, at least if you're boat is of any size....
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W.I.B. Crealock when asked what he thought of the easily trailerable Clipper Marine sailboats by a naval design collegue, Gentelman Bill responded, "I am very proud of them".
www.clippermarine.org & www.clipper-sailor.net
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01-07-2012, 21:17
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Location: Skagit City, WA
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Re: For Fun: Helm Steer or Helm Tiller ?
for fun? a tiller no doubt
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01-07-2012, 21:18
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Join Date: May 2012
Location: Baltimore, MD
Boat: Cal 2-27
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Re: For Fun: Helm Steer or Helm Tiller ?
You started a great thread and I truly want to see the opinions if others who have more experience with both than I have. I have experience with both, but much more with tillers. I lean towards then for simplicity and open cockpit along with ease of hooking up the tiller pilot. Just got my Tyler pilot hooked up last week and enjoying more than I could have imagined.
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