Di you know what is does it mean?

[robfuse]

Hi guys , I need some help to interpret some terms. In my search for my next boat I came across 1989 Irwin 38 Mk2. I don't know about this brand boats much. In this particular boat owner testifying that " Seepage of water by PORTHOLES . What does it mean portholes? Is it Portlights. Correct me if I'm wrong, please.
How complicated is to correct thus problem?
Tang you for any input.

[JMD00]

Portholes are opening. Portlights are non opening and only for light, not ventilation.

Leakage can either be by the gaskets that seal on the opening portion to the main body, or can be the bedding material that mount the portholes to the cabin sides. Involved but not impossible.

[KeelMe]

Originally Posted by JMD00

Portholes are opening. Portlights are non opening and only for light, not ventilation.

Leakage can either be by the gaskets that seal on the opening portion to the main body, or can be the bedding material that mount the portholes to the cabin sides. Involved but not impossible.

Portholes and portlights are the same thing; port means you can pass something through it. Deadlights are non opening and only for light, not ventilation.

[JMD00]

I stand corrected. Thanks.

[StuM]

Originally Posted by KeelMe

Portholes and portlights are the same thing; port means you can pass something through it. Deadlights are non opening and only for light, not ventilation.

It always amused me when people make declarative statements on the meaning of nautical terms. This is an international forum and regional usage varies. Your definitions are not my definitions.

The way I am used to the terms being used are as follows:

"porthole" is an opening with a cover in the side of a boat. It may either be fixed or "openable".

"portlight" is the transparent covering over a "porthole" i.e glass in a fixed porthole or the hinged frame and glass in an opening porthole.


"deadlight" or "storm cover" is a non-transparent porthole cover.


I can provide links to matching definitions if you want.
But then again, I can also provide links to conflicting definitions.

Back to the OP's question - in this case, I'd take "portholes" to mean all of the "windows" in the sides of the boat.


Trivia: The name "port" in "porthole" comes from the French "porte" or door (nothing to do with passing something through it). And dates back to the first ships with gun ports.

[StuM]

Nothing new. The terminology has been discussed before:


http://www.cruisersforum.com/forums/...ole-40391.html

[robfuse]

Thank you All guys. It's clear.
All the best .
Robert

[roverhi]

What they are saying is the ports leak or have leaked!!! Your concern should be can the leaks be fixed and how much is it going to cost to fix any structural or cosmetic damage. If the inside finish is wood, it's probably a thin plywood and would have to have the ports removed, the plywood ripped out and reinstalled and the ports reinstalled.

The ports could be leaking around the frame or between the glass and frame. If the boat has the usual fixed port construction common at the time it's probably both. If the boat has the port frames that were on many different manufacturer's boats, Catalina Direct has the repair kit to R&R the plexiglass and rebed the frames. It's a relatively easy though time consuming job to clean up the old frame depending on what the old caulk was.

[a64pilot]

On an Irwin I can tell you want it means, it means the windows on the boat, most likely the ones facing forward are leaking.
It also means there is significant rot around these windows.
Also look for significant rust on the chainplates

[Scout 30]

Also check for hull deformation when the boat is hauled. The 37s, 38s & 46s, all designed for the charter fleet, were notorious for this.

[hamburking]

Originally Posted by robfuse

Seepage of water by PORTHOLES .

For most 30 year old boats, I'd be surprised if there wasn't a leak or two! At least he's being honest.

[Scaramanga F25]

Some sailors rate Irwins at the bottom of the barrel.

[stnick]

Because Irwins were built fast and loose. ! Ask Bob Johnson of island Packet he was there General manager for years. When Irwin closed Bob purchased molds and started to build a boat with quality and the best methods ever known. Island Packet !
There are plenty of boats that will not give you such headaches ! My advice look elsewhere and do your homework !!