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Old 06-07-2017, 14:19   #76
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...it basically means you are a bum ,freeloader and con artist
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So if I get me a speedo and post videos on youtube I too can be rich and famous?
It works for me.

I go out on deck and people start throwing money and yelling "Put it on!! Please put your clothes back on!!"

Seriously, I think crowdfunding for startup businesses that offer something of value for your contribution can be a win - win for some folks.

Crowdfunding for charity so that you can go play is simply Internet panhandling.

You would likely be more successful sitting on a corner with a sign than than with a GoFundMe site....
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...it basically means you are a bum ,freeloader and con artist

Wow... I guess it's better than being a jerk.

If you don't want to drop a shekel in their digital hat, then don't. You don't have to get moral and demeaning about it. Most successful crowd fundees provide real value as they extend their cap-in-hand. Usually this is in the form of video content, but the range is quite wide. They offer something, and some people buy it; isn't this how a market is supposed to work?

If you see no value in the offerings, then move on. No need for insults or moralizing.
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Wow... I guess it's better than being a jerk.

If you don't want to drop a shekel in their digital hat, then don't. You don't have to get moral and demeaning about it. Most successful crowd fundees provide real value as they extend their cap-in-hand. Usually this is in the form of video content, but the range is quite wide. They offer something, and some people buy it; isn't this how a market is supposed to work?

If you see no value in the offerings, then move on. No need for insults or moralizing.
Well... The OP asked for opinions. He certainly got them...
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I had that same problem. Come on Stu, Lets get with the program
Who else clicked on the link to see if it was a real site?
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Wow... I guess it's better than being a jerk.

If you don't want to drop a shekel in their digital hat, then don't. You don't have to get moral and demeaning about it. Most successful crowd fundees provide real value as they extend their cap-in-hand. Usually this is in the form of video content, but the range is quite wide. They offer something, and some people buy it; isn't this how a market is supposed to work?

If you see no value in the offerings, then move on. No need for insults or moralizing.
I take offense at the guys begging on the street corner who walk a couple blocks every evening get in their Mercedes and drive to their nice house.

It makes it a lot harder on the legitimately down and out when people don't trust that they really need help.

So far the OP has provided ZERO indication that his crowdfunding idea is anything but asking for a handout. He put forth no suggestion that he would do something in exchange for the cash.
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I take offense at the guys begging on the street corner who walk a couple blocks every evening get in their Mercedes and drive to their nice house.

It makes it a lot harder on the legitimately down and out when people don't trust that they really need help.

So far the OP has provided ZERO indication that his crowdfunding idea is anything but asking for a handout. He put forth no suggestion that he would do something in exchange for the cash.
+1, well said
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I'll second and third all the previous comments.

You want to ask people to donate so you can go sailing and not have to work? Do I misunderstand? If not, words fail me.

Actually I can think of lots to say but nothing that would be polite.
Todays economy is different...create buzz about anything and make bucks...just look at all the otherwise useless [un]Reality TV stars out there making millions. Create enough buzz and get elected President! 😆

I would be more inclined to contribute a few bucks to someone with a unique adventure planned than watch one munite of that rubbish.

Maybe not crowd funding per se, but a number of sailors on You Tube etc doing pretty well.

Come up with an appealing story/cause and it just might work.

Whats the CEO of United Way pull down these days?...in the name of charity. Hows that less of a scam than getting someone to pay for your fun?
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So if I get me a speedo and post videos on youtube I too can be rich and famous?
Im willing to bet you can! Maybe choregraphed dance routines by a bunch of old cruisers in Speedos...bet it would go viral !

Geez, even stupid cat videos get millions of hits.

Post it...I'll shield my eyes and click just to get you started.

Dare you.
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No, let's be clear, you are the with speedo group which is entirely different then my without speedo threat! I can also add this detail that should horrify everyone reading this and really get the money rolling in: I am about 260 lbs !!! You have been warned !!!
Hey, the movie "Full Monty" was a huge hit...why not a nautical version of it!

Wait...where did I put my eye bleach!
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I take offense at the guys begging on the street corner who walk a couple blocks every evening get in their Mercedes and drive to their nice house.



It makes it a lot harder on the legitimately down and out when people don't trust that they really need help.



So far the OP has provided ZERO indication that his crowdfunding idea is anything but asking for a handout. He put forth no suggestion that he would do something in exchange for the cash.

I take offence when people make assumptions about other people based simply on their own biased or distorted view using rare or exceptional anecdotes as the excuse.

No one argues against your silly Mercedes example. And bad apples make it worse for all. But to simply assume that b/c there is some fraud in the system, that all who ask for help are fraudsters is not borne out by any actual data.
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Who else clicked on the link to see if it was a real site?
I was so hopeful! Yet denied. 😣
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Look... the kid (I assume (s)he is a kid) asked a silly question and received quick and clear responses that said if you want people to send you money, you have to provide something in return. It's an old thread now until revived and then the better-than-thou moralizers came back to add a few more insulting kicks.

None of us have any idea what the OP's circumstances are. He was idea, as it was presented, was not a good one, but to start insulting him is simply unnecessary. Sounds all too much like the fat cat walking over the beggar in the street while saying "get a job."
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I take offence when people make assumptions about other people based simply on their own biased or distorted view using rare or exceptional anecdotes as the excuse.

No one argues against your silly Mercedes example. And bad apples make it worse for all. But to simply assume that b/c there is some fraud in the system, that all who ask for help are fraudsters is not borne out by any actual data.

No assumption made..He isn't holding a "will work for food" sign. He stated he wanted others to help pay for him to go sailing.
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No assumption made..He isn't holding a "will work for food" sign. He stated he wanted others to help pay for him to go sailing.


Yes, and he was immediately told this is not a good idea by me, and many others. No need for insults or moralizing.
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