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Old 11-03-2023, 20:05   #31
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For real? I wonder what the incremental cost to the taxpayer was to plot that specific course, just to have this whimsical experience.
What's morale worth?

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not all of the 3500 folks on board could possibly have personally crossed that point. Only an unidentified few would have actually been directly over the intersection
Geeze... split hairs much?
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We had speed screws for a few years and could outrun an La Class attack sub.
That's not all that surprising. Subs aren't that fast, unless you understand and appreciate the medium they're going through is ~830 times denser than air.

That said, while you might outrun the sub, you won't out run the torpedoes.
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That's not all that surprising. Subs aren't that fast, unless you understand and appreciate the medium they're going through is ~830 times denser than air.

That said, while you might outrun the sub, you won't out run the torpedoes.
True but at just over 50 knots manuverability we stood a bit better chance than now at mere 35knots .
Made flight ops easier to get needed wind across the deck
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True but at just over 50 knots manuverability we stood a bit better chance than now at mere 35knots.
Mmmmm sorry, no. And I'm basing that on technology we had 50 years ago; I'll guess it's even better now.

But 50 kts would help with recovery ops.
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Mmmmm sorry, no. And I'm basing that on technology we had 50 years ago; I'll guess it's even better now.

But 50 kts would help with recovery ops.
With launching more as we needed a minimum of 25 knots wind across the deck for launching hence always turning into the wind for launching.
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That's not all that surprising. Subs aren't that fast, unless you understand and appreciate the medium they're going through is ~830 times denser than air.

That said, while you might outrun the sub, you won't out run the torpedoes.
Subs speed is about 30 knots submerged. Some faster but not reported.
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Subs speed is about 30 knots submerged. Some faster but not reported.
The Alfas aren't around anymore, but they could go better than 40 kts.
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The Alfas aren't around anymore, but they could go better than 40 kts.
They were fast... and everybody knew where they were. (They sound like freight trains.)

Speed is not that important, stealth is.
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For real? I wonder what the incremental cost to the taxpayer was to plot that specific course, just to have this whimsical experience.
A great circle route from Vancouver to Sydney passes within 30 miles of that "X" in the ocean. Honolulu to Brisbane is a similar near miss. On a trip that's 1000s of mile long, that minor detour adds very little to the overall distance travelled. It wouldn't add a noticeable amount to the fuel used; not that that's an issue for a nuke carrier.
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Speed is not that important, stealth is.
Tell that to a Shkval
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Tell that to a Shkval
Torpedoes cant hit you, if they don't know you're there.

No submarine will ever outrun a super-cav torpedo.

So, it's best if you are 'vewy', 'vewy' quiet.

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And at this point I'd like to apologize to the OP for hijacking the thread.
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Kind of necessary Arctic deck suits still have 2 but hope I never need them again
Man that's luxury, during the Cod Wars in the N Atlantic around Iceland.. during a RAS we'd just wear our No8's boots and oilies.. nothing like handling the distance line at the bow plunging into a F8 in the winter.. boy.. was the mug of Kai welcome after that for an hour.
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A great circle route from Vancouver to Sydney passes within 30 miles of that "X" in the ocean. Honolulu to Brisbane is a similar near miss. On a trip that's 1000s of mile long, that minor detour adds very little to the overall distance travelled. It wouldn't add a noticeable amount to the fuel used; not that that's an issue for a nuke carrier.
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A great circle route from Vancouver to Sydney passes within 30 miles of that "X" in the ocean. Honolulu to Brisbane is a similar near miss. On a trip that's 1000s of mile long, that minor detour adds very little to the overall distance travelled. It wouldn't add a noticeable amount to the fuel used; not that that's an issue for a nuke carrier.
Well, were the subject warships engaged in those particular passages? If so, you are surely correct in saying the incremental cost was negligible.

And while those routes are not so likely for an American warship, and jilling about in the mid Pacific isn't such a common task, Navy vessels do spend a lot of time just hanging out (I'm told... no personal knowledge) so wh y not at 0/180?

But I still think it silly behavior! And I guess I will have to be satisfied with being a shellback and a golden dragon cause I'm not likely to be in that neighborhood again.

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