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16-02-2014, 04:45
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Join Date: Feb 2008
Location: Fernandina Beach, FL
Boat: Island Packet 380 - Delta Blues
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Re: Can You Force Buyer to Change Boat Name?
Several years ago we bought an O'Day 35 from a 40-something widow whose husband died suddenly. They loved the boat. It was a big part of their life together. While she didn't put a name change in the sales contract, she asked us to change the name, saying she couldn't bear to see it out on the water. We honored her wish, we would've done anyway because it was a terrible name.
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16-02-2014, 06:33
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#47
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Registered User
Join Date: Aug 2010
Location: NSW Australia
Boat: Traditional 30
Posts: 1,980
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Re: Can You Force Buyer to Change Boat Name?
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Originally Posted by sailingmonica
A friend of mine up here in Canada was forced by age and health to sell his beloved boat, which he owned and enjoyed with his family for 17 years. The boat's name (not registered) was a combination of the names of his three children and hence very dear to him. The fellow that bought it, as irony would have it, has a cottage on the same lake, about 1/2 mile from my friend. Well, when the new owner takes the boat out, my friend and his wife cry on their dock. He asked the new owner to please change the name as he cannot bear seeing it, but they refuse because they believe it is bad luck to change a boat's name. Is there anything he can do? Is there a superstition that would override the above? Does he have any legal rights? Again, the name was not registered, the boat has a licence number and he just named her after his kids.
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Perhaps i am a bigger idiot than the shrinks tell me, but if the boat was sold with those lovely vinyl letters spelling out the boats name, they are a part of the inventory, therefore part of the boat. The problem belongs to your friends for not changing it first. Its now the buyers boat to do what he likes.
As far as changing the name and superstition, Pfft, Superstition is all it is. He can change it if he wants to. But not because your friends want him to.
Frankly, I have never sold a boat and wanted the name to be changed. My only hope has been that the boat is loved and used by caring owners.
Perhaps your friends should actually be happy that they know the boat is being used and loved. I would love to know what has happened to all of the boats I have owned over the years.
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16-02-2014, 06:50
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#48
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Registered User
Join Date: Aug 2010
Location: NSW Australia
Boat: Traditional 30
Posts: 1,980
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Re: Can You Force Buyer to Change Boat Name?
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Originally Posted by Charlie
I rememer a story and don't know if it is true. Perhaps some of our Aussie friends could verify this. There is a gentleman who has campaigned a series of boats named "Bumblebee" When he sells the boat he makes it a condition of sale that the name of the boat is changed. Of course everyone reffered to the new owners boats as the "Ex-Bumblebee" so one purchaser changed the name of the boat from Bumblebee to "Ex-bumblebee" Technically a name change. Well they went to court over it and the new owner relented and changed the name. Has anyone ever heard this story?
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There have been a lot of famous sydney hobart boat names that have popped up on newer boats. As one boat gets tired- its sold, the owner buys a new one and names it the same as the previous.
I haven't heard about contractual agreements regarding these boats (Bumblebee being one of them it seems), but I am not a broker either. But certainly, renaming new boats the same as the last is not uncommon in the big end of town here.
Having said all that , here is an Add for one of Syds Ragamuffins. No word about losing the name. In fact, using the famous Ragamuffin name as a selling point. But to add some confusion, it used to be a Bumblebee.. Used 'maxi Ragamuffin' Frers 80ft Maxi Yacht In Qld 1d Survey for Sale | Yachts For Sale | Yachthub
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16-02-2014, 09:59
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#49
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Join Date: Dec 2013
Location: Paradise
Boat: Various
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Re: Can You Force Buyer to Change Boat Name?
This is one of those cases I see on Judge Judy or People's Court and the Judge really gets frustrated that their time is being wasted on such a matter plus the fact the plaintiff has no case.
Plus the fact that there are no limits whatsoever on how many boats can use any given name. One always thinks they've come up with the perfect unique one of a kind name and find out that there are ten more throughout the world using the same name.
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16-02-2014, 10:46
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#50
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Registered User
Join Date: May 2008
Location: Nova Scotia until Spring 2021
Boat: Custom 41' Steel Pilothouse Cutter
Posts: 4,976
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Re: Can You Force Buyer to Change Boat Name?
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Originally Posted by brantleychuck
This is for fstbttms. " noobs". Real nice way to welcome a newcomer , think about it
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True story: Decades before the rise of Skynet, in high school "noobs" was a term for a young woman with A-cups.
Sexist, but it was a different era. For the record, I liked noobs as much as the alternative.
I didn't hear "noob" for "newbie" for "newcomer", "tyro" or the like again until the '90s.
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18-02-2014, 01:23
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#51
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Registered User
Join Date: Nov 2013
Location: Newcastle, Australia
Boat: Tasman 26
Posts: 56
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Re: Can You Force Buyer to Change Boat Name?
Thanx for the welcome and the razzing...I still like the forums but.
I must say though, old posts can be still relevant.
have a noice day.
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18-02-2014, 08:31
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#52
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Join Date: Aug 2012
Posts: 290
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Re: Can You Force Buyer to Change Boat Name?
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Originally Posted by Perfusser
I must say though, old posts can be still relevant.
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Agreed, helps keep an important subject alive that others might have missed, myself included.
WELCOME aboard.
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18-02-2014, 10:32
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Join Date: Apr 2006
Posts: 15,136
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Re: Can You Force Buyer to Change Boat Name?
Alchemy, I think "newbs" or "newbies" got popularized out of Army slang during Nam. As opposed to "noobs" which I've heard way less often but, like you, I've only heard it associated with puberty and anatomical changes that probably could not be discussed on this forum.
Why the grunts referred to "newbies" (new bies?) instead of "newgies" (new guys) I have no idea. The more common other term probably would run afoul of the forum's anatomical policies too.
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18-02-2014, 10:51
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#54
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Registered User
Join Date: Sep 2012
Location: Wilbur By The Sea, FL
Boat: Catalina 30
Posts: 661
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Re: Can You Force Buyer to Change Boat Name?
In the Navy circa 1993ish it was FNG, newb is very common in online gaming.
Many a good time was had tea bagging a newb when playing Halo.
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18-02-2014, 11:20
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Registered User
Join Date: Jan 2011
Location: Cowichan Bay, BC (Maple Bay Marina)
Posts: 9,762
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Re: Can You Force Buyer to Change Boat Name?
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Originally Posted by hellosailor
Why the grunts referred to "newbies" (new bies?) instead of "newgies" (new guys) I have no idea. The more common other term probably would run afoul of the forum's anatomical policies too.
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So as not to be confused with noogies? (Knuckles rubbed hard against another person's head...)
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