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View Poll Results: Ever boarded with bad intentions?
Have you ever been physically boarded by possible thieves, while you were onboard?? 20 74.07%
If so, was there a physical altercation? 8 29.63%
If so, did the possible thieves display weapons? 5 18.52%
Not boarded - but had a dinghy stolen from the water? 9 33.33%
If you were boarded, did it occur in U.S. territorial waters? 3 11.11%
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Old 26-07-2019, 13:21   #241
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Re: Boarded with bad intentions?

"his Pamela Anderson" Hmmm that sounds a little kinky, did he enjoy it?
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Old 26-07-2019, 18:39   #242
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The defensive ammo has multiple projectiles--BBs, flat disks etc and there is also non-lethal ammo that contains multiple plastic or rubber projectiles. I like the idea of multiple projectiles going down a dark hall.

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I have not heard of this kind of ammo. Can you be more specific? What's called and who makes it?
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Old 26-07-2019, 20:21   #243
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Post removed by author. Incident in Panama described in other thread.
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Old 01-08-2019, 03:20   #244
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In addition to alarms, bear spray, brass knuckles, bars, etc
It seems to me a somewhat randomized – to sound natural – endless loop of a dog once-in-a-while barking, especially when you are away, and here I believe you really have to use this prudently around other sailors/people, would convince someone casing your boat out that there's a dog on board and keep him off. Then if they get closer there are these dog alarms that get louder and intensify as they get closer. If they climb on then go with the bright lights and sirens. But I think this has the best chance to keep someone away who will be deterred by a dog on board without actually having a dog on board. I think it wouldn't be too hard to do but haven't seen such a setup. Also, for $12 on Aliexpress.com you can get a fake tv to make it look like you're on board awake.

I looked at the strain gauge systems but they are more reactive – wait until the guy climbs aboard. I'd rather be proactive. They're more expensive. And I wonder if strain gauge sensors are any more reliable than pir motion sensors. There a lot more of the latter made. And I don't want to only rely on bright lights, loud noise, and a possible physical situation with someone who isn't deterred by the first two.

Also, someone mentioned making a compressed air projectile launcher. Wasn't that what the bad guy in the movie "No Country for Old Men" used to kill people?
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Old 01-08-2019, 04:40   #245
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Ok all good above.
One point that may be useful to bear in mind, for those telling they cannot cross the line to harming the intruder...

New Zealand, and I expect British Law, is that you are legally justified to use sufficient force to protect yourself and family against the level of force used against you.

You are not legally able to kill anyone unless they are trying to kill you, or someone you are protecting.

If they are, then you are justified to use sufficient force to prevent that.
So that's the basis of my Defcon 1 suggestions, where it is extremely clear the intruder intends to seriously harm or kill you all.

So if you are dodging bullets into your cabins, that would be reasonable legal grounds for responding with whatever deadly force you have.
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Old 01-08-2019, 09:54   #246
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The converse truth is, you are not allowed to use deadly force to protect property.

So you can be charged with murder if you do.

Generally the case outside the Anglosphere, and often within it.
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Old 01-08-2019, 12:16   #247
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Probably true John61ct.

It cant be overstated, for the purposes of this thread, and for the avoidance of doubt, that if you are being threatened with deadly force, you are COMPLETELY JUSTIFIED to defend yourself and all whom you are protecting, with DEADLY FORCE.
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Old 01-08-2019, 12:44   #248
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It never ceases to amaze me how many speak of taking another's life with such ease, I often wonder how these people would actually respond in a real world situation...life ain't a movie.
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Old 01-08-2019, 13:17   #249
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Hi Dale, I guess its the same as the political divide in USA. Never the twain shall meet.

No decent male in charge of his family would entertain NOT using deadly force against a perpetrator intending on grievous bodily harm!!

If you read my intro, you will understand there would be NO hesitation to take action, as folks all over US have to daily in their homes, and on the streets.


As women carry guns in their purses to defend themselves, as security guards carry guns in armoured trucks, as police carry guns, all to simply keep the peace and take the unpleasant but totally justified and necessary action wnen required to protect the innocent.


The lefty snowflakes who would prefer to watch their daughters being raped so they don't offend a perpetrator, I find incomprehensible, but they are there in boats and all over the country.. but not for long, thank God.

You cant kill a Divine Atma. Read Krishna and Arjuna, in the Gita. It is just recycling. lol
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Old 01-08-2019, 13:28   #250
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Hi Dale, I guess its the same as the political divide in USA. Never the twain shall meet.

No decent male in charge of his family would entertain NOT using deadly force against a perpetrator intending on grievous bodily harm!!

If you read my intro, you will understand there would be NO hesitation to take action, as folks all over US have to daily in their homes, and on the streets.


As women carry guns in their purses to defend themselves, as security guards carry guns in armoured trucks, as police carry guns, all to simply keep the peace and take the unpleasant but totally justified and necessary action wnen required to protect the innocent.


The lefty snowflakes who would prefer to watch their daughters being raped so they don't offend a perpetrator, I find incomprehensible, but they are there in boats and all over the country.. but not for long, thank God.

You cant kill a Divine Atma. Read Krishna and Arjuna, in the Gita. It is just recycling. lol

That explains why most mass shooters kill themselves.. they're terrified of folks like you leaping outa cupboards armed to the teeth..
Yet to hear of a case where someone leapt to the rescue with their guns.. did hear of the armed guard who ran away..
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Old 01-08-2019, 13:36   #251
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Amen and Roger that, LT! oops I mean Boatman61

I believe the stories of folks coming to the rescue are legion, and rightly so.

I have done so and would do so again.

and.... oh, no, better not say that...… lol lol
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That explains why most mass shooters kill themselves.. they're terrified of folks like you leaping outa cupboards armed to the teeth..
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Old 01-08-2019, 13:40   #253
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Demonic closed minds filter everything to support their illusion.

Q rules.

All it takes for evil to flourish is for good men to stand by and do nothing..


Those days are coming to a close right now. Nothing can stop it now.

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Old 01-08-2019, 13:52   #254
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Re: Boarded with bad intentions?

@Mistymountain

Regardless of whether you are right or wrong, for most of the popular cruising destinations discussed here you will not be permitted to enter with and/or carry your firearms while cruising so most of your points are moot.

So probably not much use continuing to suggest them in this thread.
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Old 01-08-2019, 13:59   #255
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Hi JMH2002
Ok thanks.

If you READ my thread you would see that there is NO Suggestion of carrying firearms on a boat.

Nor did I continue with it.

Read the threads before you comment.
When you comment, make sure it has a logical argument not an illogical emotional one.
That's what gets people hurt in dangerous situations too.

A modern USA liberal schooling product I assume? Or University graduate?
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