Bad News for YouTube bloggers

[Alberg30Shill]

Originally Posted by atoll

'm too tight for, pay to air TV,currently watching robo cop on the free tv brainwashing channel......but it is sad when a platform like youtube who built its viewer base from viewer produced videos freely uploaded onto their server,and so quickly forgets how they evolved, by hosting content from a wide variety of uploaders,many with way lees than 10k views on posted content,but non the less led to the overall growth of youtube as an entity.

Exactly

[Alberg30Shill]

Originally Posted by mikedefieslife

Seems like an ok move to me.

10,000 lifetime views is not much in the grand scheme of things, and allows people to watch new channels and videos without being annoyed by ads.

Ha! You don't think they will run ads on those videos??? That's the basis of the outrage here.

[Alberg30Shill]

Originally Posted by belizesailor

As a former tech industry guy, I can tell you with certainty thats not entirely correct.

Me too. I can tell you with certainly that the operative word in your comment is entirely. It is mostly correct.

Originally Posted by ZULU40

which they do
the service was there, and changed to profit others

what I dont understand is
what is the piss off about their meagre profit by ppl like you?

[Alberg30Shill]

Originally Posted by funjohnson

Again, it varies by if people watch the entire ad, click on the ad, and if they watch the entire episode (more ads). On average, 10,000 views is about $15. I believe Youtube also pays you retroactively once you hit your 10k for the ads they have shown.

If they had no threshold for earning, Youtube would have to set-up tax and payment info for someone with eight cent earnings. If you haven't filled out the required forms to get paid from them yet, you'll see it is a lot of data and info required. It feels like the amount of paperwork an employer's HR department makes you fill out for a new job.

Matt

There are no tax form implications of paying people $15. 1099 forms aren't relevant until around $600.

Originally Posted by hellosailor

"they were going to make this change to stop people from copying other's content "
Right, like that's going to work?
What they could do, is change their upload process so that their server watermarked every upload, and also checked every upload to see if there was a previous watermark (and therefore a previous copyright) on it. That's donkey work, Gargoyle and YoRube! both have hundreds of thousands of donkeys to do it.

It sounds more like they made a decision that "hobby" accounts will be allowed to continue free of charge--and free of the expenses to maintain them--and after a 10,000 view threshold, they'll be considered commercial customers.

With Facebook and others getting into the business this year and competition becoming a bigger issue, I'd expect a lot of financial changes from all of them.

Originally Posted by ZULU40

u suspect

there is nothing in our predictive history that sustains this
no incentive = no committent = why bother

[Alberg30Shill]

Originally Posted by dwedeking2

Atoll this isn't the case in the US. Companies provide 1099 forms for income reporting on private contractors.

I don't see how anyone who's been on the net for any length of time would be surprised by this. The "build a following then monetize" is the most basic internet business model.

Not for $15 they don't.

[mikedefieslife]

Originally Posted by Alberg30Shill

Ha! You don't think they will run ads on those videos??? That's the basis of the outrage here.

I find it hard to believe anyone is outraged by the loss of a "potential" $0.30

The ones I could think are those people who scream foul when countries get rid their penny, or cent or whatever the currency and then round up prices on even numbers and down on odd numbers.

[BandB]

Originally Posted by mikedefieslife

I find it hard to believe anyone is outraged by the loss of a "potential" $0.30

The ones I could think are those people who scream foul when countries get rid their penny, or cent or whatever the currency and then round up prices on even numbers and down on odd numbers.

I am still amazed we still have pennies, although with most transactions now electronic it doesn't matter. Interestingly, the ABC stores in NC eliminated them decades ago and went to 5 cents as the lowest denomination.

[hellosailor]

"I am still amazed we still have pennies,"
Ah, get ready for a faceplant, guys.
In America we are authorized to have currency that includes dollars, cents, and MILS. I'd bet that no one here has ever received a mil, and the treasury has never coined them, in our lifetimes.
Mils? Yeah, that's when you see gasoline priced at $2.699 per gallon. Those pesky extra "9"s at the end are mils.
The only other place I've seen using mils was the Eastman Kodak Company, which used to price commercial film (i.e. rolls of film sold to your camera shop) with mils. And they didn't always magically end in 9 mils, either.

So, yeah, the US has already gotten rid of our small change. AFAIK they never coined it, they just provided for it. But there's the precedent for getting rid of the penny. Of course they can't get rid of the dollar, until the folks with mattresses stuffed full of them convert to Bitcoin. (sigh)

Funny thing, if your gasoline purchase is $4.999, your gas station is overcharging you when they ask for five dollars. Ahem.

[a64pilot]

Originally Posted by BandB

I am still amazed we still have pennies, although with most transactions now electronic it doesn't matter. Interestingly, the ABC stores in NC eliminated them decades ago and went to 5 cents as the lowest denomination.

Decades ago the US Military stopped using pennies in overseas Commissaries, Exchanges etc.
The penny cost more than 1c to manufacture and if I were King for a day, I'd get rid of it.

[Cherod]

Of course we still have pennies ( just wish I had more of them !! )

[hellosailor]

Funny thing about pennies. Downhill skiers hate to carry around pocket change. Except, cafeterias at ski areas need to make change and charge sales tax, which keeps creating odd penny amounts. But they solved that decades ago. Some (most?) states allow "tax inclusive" prices, so instead of charging $5.95 plus 7% tax for a burger...which becomes $6.37...The cafeteria simply charges $6.40 or $6.35 or whatever, tax included. And there are no odd pennies.

Pennies are only a problem when folks try to use them in the fuse box.

[Cherod]

Pennies are only a problem when you don't have any

[atoll]

i'm really cheap when it comes to bargains,but if i could sell something that phsyically does not exist,apart from in a digital format,that i only have to make once,millions and millions of times over for a dollar every 1000 times it is used,to half the worlds population, once,every day,i would probably not worry too much about pennies either.....