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Old 22-09-2017, 13:29   #31
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There is a series called "Mirror Black" on NetFlix which takes some of today's social media obsession to that sort of extreme...science fiction tends to become sceince fact.

I do agree though that manipulation of "The Masses" by "The Man" using technology has reached disturbing proportions.

Of courses, The Masses help facilitate that by being so obsessively connected to social media.

Oh wait...Im on a social media site...and the air seems to be getting a bit thin...whats that pop up say?..."Click LIKE to breath"...OMG! 😉
'm too tight for, pay to air TV,currently watching robo cop on the free tv brainwashing channel......but it is sad when a platform like youtube who built its viewer base from viewer produced videos freely uploaded onto their server,and so quickly forgets how they evolved, by hosting content from a wide variety of uploaders,many with way lees than 10k views on posted content,but non the less led to the overall growth of youtube as an entity.
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Old 22-09-2017, 13:32   #32
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Huh? Do you even know how YouTube works?

People can post their videos elsewhere, they're not the only game in town. Even this site generates revenue from ads. Vloggers upload content, if people watch it they also see targeted advertisements. How is this assuming any right to some other businesses resources? The monetization of videos was YouTube's agreement. They simply amended that agreement to say that unless you're above 10,000 views they will no longer pay the ad fees, but they continue to play ads on your work.

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'm too tight for, pay to air TV,currently watching robo cop on the free tv brainwashing channel......but it is sad when a platform like youtube who built its viewer base from viewer produced videos freely uploaded onto their server,and so quickly forgets how they evolved, by hosting content from a wide variety of uploaders,many with way lees than 10k views on posted content,but non the less led to the overall growth of youtube as an entity.
Change is the only constant. Things evolve. Dont like it then start your own...thats how NetFlix began...by a disgruntled Block Buster customer.
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Old 22-09-2017, 13:35   #33
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Oh well,
Does anyone really care?

One of the great things about YouTube is that whenever I want do something for the first time I go to YouTube to see if and how someone has done it before. I'm beniffiting for from all those peoples hours of toil.
So I must say "Thankyou YouTube Bloggers"

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I might find something on YouTube. Maybe a movie.
Way too busy though.

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Old 22-09-2017, 13:36   #34
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Seems like an ok move to me.

10,000 lifetime views is not much in the grand scheme of things, and allows people to watch new channels and videos without being annoyed by ads.
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Old 22-09-2017, 13:37   #35
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Change is the only constant. Things evolve. Dont like it then start your own...thats how NetFlix began...by a disgruntled Block Buster customer.
altruism is dead...humanities loss i guess......earthquake in silicon valley might retune their thinking.............
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Their circus...their rules.
Yes, you've got that exactly right. They aren't losing anything by making the change. It's likely better to go back to the old style of advertising by placing ads directly into the videos. It just makes for more work on the developer /producer. It also means that once the ad is there it will always be the same, even if the business fails or goes out of business. I'm sure YouTube would eventually stop this as it cuts them out of the loop.
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Is the underlying assumption is that vloggers have some kind of "right" to use the business resources of others?
which they do
the service was there, and changed to profit others

what I dont understand is
what is the piss off about their meagre profit by ppl like you?

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altruism is dead...humanities loss i guess......earthquake in silicon valley might retune their thinking.............
Its taken a beating for sure, but not entirely dead.

Plenty of technology money that goes into charity still.
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Its taken a beating for sure, but not entirely dead.

Plenty of technology money that goes into charity still.
only as tax writeoff/relief generally nothing altruistic there i am afraid,and at the end of the day tax payers still get screwed over by these loopholes
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only as tax writeoff/relief generally nothing altruistic there i am afraid,and at the end of the day tax payers still get screwed over by these loopholes
As a former tech industry guy, I can tell you with certainty thats not entirely correct.
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which they do
the service was there, and changed to profit others

what I dont understand is
what is the piss off about their meagre profit by ppl like you?

No piss off...just seems like much ado about a minor administrative decision to me.
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As a former tech industry guy, I can tell you with certainty thats not entirely correct.
thats not what we are seeing over here this side of the atlantic with all these companies registered in tax havens like luxembourg,i see uber just got shafted with the thin edge of the wedge in london,this set a a precedent the writing is on the wall,it will not belong before the likes of google etc start having to be more transparent about paying tax.
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No piss off...just seems like much ado about a minor administrative decision to me.
I really find that hard to believe

Minor administrative decisions, aka 'money grabbing', like twitter did, see what happened to that, and like those morons at photobucket did, will kill this component off

personally I feel like Ive gained more from these minor producers than the likes of youtube ever did, ymmv

limiting incentive ultimately amounts to a community loss. One for which there is no other avenue to return. Sure ppl will post 'stuff' similar in subject nature but from the biased corporate side.

Without incentive, prime to our competitive world in 'every other venture', consistency and quality will disappear, and eventually the following. Plain cause and effect
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personally I feel like Ive gained more from these minor producers than the likes of youtube ever did, ymmv

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There is of course this intangible (non monetary) value to such postings. YouTube has chosen to remove the meager profit incentive from them, but they are not prohibited from posting.

I suspect those posters will continue, because they obviously are not in it for the money.

Case in point, CF is a business too, lots of us participate here for the intangible benefit with no expectation of financial benefit.
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I suspect those posters will continue, because they obviously are not in it for the money.
u suspect

there is nothing in our predictive history that sustains this
no incentive = no committent = why bother
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