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23-03-2018, 06:10
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#346
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Registered User
Join Date: Oct 2016
Location: Ireland
Boat: Redbay Boats 950-E
Posts: 22
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Re: Are Power Boaters Clueless
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Originally Posted by boatpoker
Most sailboaters are dickheads.
Most powerboaters are dickheads.
Most people are dickheads.
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Amen to that! Certainly no evidence of a global shortage any time soon
I bet when sailboaters and powerboaters are driving their vehicles to the dock in the morning - the breakdown of dickheadedness is pretty much 50/50.
Of course - we powerboaters have our uses too - that's a natural smirk I have going there BTW....
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23-03-2018, 06:23
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#347
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Registered User
Join Date: Apr 2017
Location: Boston
Boat: Boston Whaler, Conquest 315, 31ft
Posts: 212
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Re: Are Power Boaters Clueless
Before freaking out, measure their speed.
Planing hulls can throw a larger wake at slow speeds, but nevertheless the rules are that they must go at 5 knots, so they do and it can generate a big wake.
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23-03-2018, 06:33
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#348
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Registered User
Join Date: Apr 2017
Location: Boston
Boat: Boston Whaler, Conquest 315, 31ft
Posts: 212
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Re: Are Power Boaters Clueless
Before freaking out, measure their speed.
Planing hulls can throw a larger wake at slow speeds, but nevertheless the rules are that they must go at 5 knots, so they do and it can generate a big wake anyway.
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23-05-2018, 16:41
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#349
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CLOD
Join Date: Jul 2007
Location: being planted in Jacksonville Fl
Boat: none
Posts: 20,364
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Re: Are Power Boaters Clueless
Yesterday at 5am in the nice fairly calm anchorage I had been in for for 3 days I was awoke when I suddenly was tossed out of bed. I proceeded to hold on as things flew out tables, fell out of shelves, etc. (granted I was rigged for sea here in the riverfront). When it was safe, a long time later) I went outside to look at what caused this:
It wasn’t a sailboat, it was a 100’ motor yacht cutting through the anchorage to save the 100’ to have gone around to get to the marina.
So clueless or doesn’t give a crap?
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23-05-2018, 17:00
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#350
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Registered User
Join Date: Jan 2011
Location: Cowichan Bay, BC (Maple Bay Marina)
Posts: 9,705
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Re: Are Power Boaters Clueless
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Originally Posted by sailorboy1
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So clueless or doesn’t give a crap?
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That'd be both.
I was actually out moving one day recently at 1100 when this huge mega yacht came storming along off my starboard bow. I saw him from a long way away. I was motoring at six knots, he was going perhaps 12. As the situation developed, it was clear I was the burdened vessel and I turned to starboard to offset the collision course we were on and to make it clear to him that I was staying out of his way. Soon after I did and opened up the bearing, he turned to port!!! WTF? I turned further, and so did he. Not fun playing chicken with a 200 foot "pleasure craft." There were no constraints, open water. So instead of going way, way in front of me,
or even trying to go behind me, he ended up going as close in front of me as he could. HUGE wake. Lovely dude. Clueless? Maybe not. Arrogant? You betcha.
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23-05-2018, 19:07
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#351
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Registered User
Join Date: Aug 2003
Boat: Dragonfly 1000 trimaran
Posts: 7,145
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Re: Are Power Boaters Clueless
Stu,
Are Paintball guns considered a weapon in Canada?
Just askin'...
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23-05-2018, 19:17
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#352
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Senior Cruiser
Join Date: Oct 2007
Location: 29° 49.16’ N 82° 25.82’ W
Boat: Pearson 422
Posts: 16,306
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Re: Are Power Boaters Clueless
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Originally Posted by Stu Jackson
That'd be both.
I was actually out moving one day recently at 1100 when this huge mega yacht came storming along off my starboard bow. I saw him from a long way away. I was motoring at six knots, he was going perhaps 12. As the situation developed, it was clear I was the burdened vessel and I turned to starboard to offset the collision course we were on and to make it clear to him that I was staying out of his way. Soon after I did and opened up the bearing, he turned to port!!! WTF? I turned further, and so did he. Not fun playing chicken with a 200 foot "pleasure craft." There were no constraints, open water. So instead of going way, way in front of me,
or even trying to go behind me, he ended up going as close in front of me as he could. HUGE wake. Lovely dude. Clueless? Maybe not. Arrogant? You betcha.
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It is really difficult for me to relate to or understand this kind of action by another boater. What can be going on in their little brain? If the guy driving wasn't totally clueless then I would say arrogant is a gross understatement. That wake could have caused damage or injury and borders on criminal.
Did you try radio contact with the other boat?
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23-05-2018, 20:06
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#353
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Moderator
Join Date: May 2008
Location: cruising SW Pacific
Boat: Jon Sayer 1-off 46 ft fract rig sloop strip plank in W Red Cedar
Posts: 21,155
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Re: Are Power Boaters Clueless
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Originally Posted by skipmac
It is really difficult for me to relate to or understand this kind of action by another boater. What can be going on in their little brain? If the guy driving wasn't totally clueless then I would say arrogant is a gross understatement. That wake could have caused damage or injury and borders on criminal.
Did you try radio contact with the other boat?
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With a vessel of that size the skipper is likely a pro with some sort of ticket, and a career to think about. If you were able to catch the name of the offending vessel, a written report to the CG will have repercussions, and perhaps alter his attitude in the future.
No one particularly likes to be a tattle-tale, but in egregious situations it is justified IMO. Lives and or significant property losses can be at stake!
Jim
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24-05-2018, 07:30
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#354
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Registered User
Join Date: Dec 2008
Location: SC
Boat: None,build the one shown of glass, had many from 6' to 48'.
Posts: 10,208
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Re: Are Power Boaters Clueless
Quote:
Originally Posted by sailorboy1
Yesterday at 5am in the nice fairly calm anchorage I had been in for for 3 days I was awoke when I suddenly was tossed out of bed. I proceeded to hold on as things flew out tables, fell out of shelves, etc. (granted I was rigged for sea here in the riverfront). When it was safe, a long time later) I went outside to look at what caused this:
It wasn’t a sailboat, it was a 100’ motor yacht cutting through the anchorage to save the 100’ to have gone around to get to the marina.
So clueless or doesn’t give a crap?
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Your summation is probably spot on for the majority of wakes.
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27-05-2018, 05:32
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#355
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Registered User
Join Date: Sep 2010
Posts: 2,909
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Re: Are Power Boaters Clueless
Quote:
Originally Posted by Stu Jackson
That'd be both.
I was actually out moving one day recently at 1100 when this huge mega yacht came storming along off my starboard bow. I saw him from a long way away. I was motoring at six knots, he was going perhaps 12. As the situation developed, it was clear I was the burdened vessel and I turned to starboard to offset the collision course we were on and to make it clear to him that I was staying out of his way. Soon after I did and opened up the bearing, he turned to port!!! WTF? I turned further, and so did he. Not fun playing chicken with a 200 foot "pleasure craft." There were no constraints, open water. So instead of going way, way in front of me,
or even trying to go behind me, he ended up going as close in front of me as he could. HUGE wake. Lovely dude. Clueless? Maybe not. Arrogant? You betcha.
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A lot of times, when I see powerboats causing havic with enormous wakes hundreds of feet behind them, I wonder the same thing;
1) are they that ignorant of how their boat operates,and the wake it generates,
2) or is it that they are so arrogant, and lacking in empathy for others, that they just don’t care?
I guess you would have to know them to know which one it was.
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27-05-2018, 05:49
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#356
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CLOD
Join Date: Jul 2007
Location: being planted in Jacksonville Fl
Boat: none
Posts: 20,364
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Re: Are Power Boaters Clueless
That guy was clueless or not caring. He did it on purpose. There is road rage out on the water, which is why torpedoes aren’t standard boat options.
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27-05-2018, 06:09
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#357
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Marine Service Provider
Join Date: Aug 2006
Location: La Paz, Mexico
Boat: 1978 Hudson Force 50 Ketch
Posts: 3,920
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Re: Are Power Boaters Clueless
If there are A-holes in the general population why would one assume there wouldn't be in the boater population as well....
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27-05-2018, 07:00
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#358
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Registered User
Join Date: Sep 2014
Location: Fiji Airways/ Lake Ontario
Boat: Legend 37.5, 1968 Alcort Sunfish, Avon 310
Posts: 2,749
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Re: Are Power Boaters Clueless
Quote:
Originally Posted by SV THIRD DAY
If there are A-holes in the general population why would one assume there wouldn't be in the boater population as well....
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Point well taken. The question is why so many are power boaters.
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27-05-2018, 07:53
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#359
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Registered User
Join Date: May 2015
Location: edmonton alberta
Boat: 1992 lagoon 42 tpi
Posts: 1,729
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Re: Are Power Boaters Clueless
Because they have the "power" to make it evident that they are an ahole.
An ahole in a sailboat has fewer tools to so dramatically affect others in a negative way without putting in huge effort or risk to himself.
They are everywhere, and most are drawn to the venues that allow them to affect others(guessing it's a power trip kinda thing) or to have a level of control over others.
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27-05-2018, 08:00
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#360
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Registered User
Join Date: Sep 2017
Posts: 1,075
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Are Power Boaters Clueless
Quote:
Originally Posted by Tetepare
Point well taken. The question is why so many are power boaters.
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Turn signals.
I think drivers who fail to use turn signals have a similar mis-wired brain that prevents self-awareness or even empathy. If you drive a BMW, you are more likely to skip the turn signal in my city, according to my unscientific survey.
Perhaps power boaters who throw wakes have the same brain problem, unaware or uncaring of the effect of their actions upon others.
I’ll bet the same types will also toss their trash into the street.
“I’m the only one in the world today...”
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