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14-09-2006, 17:04

Yea, with a grinder

Tropic Cat · 14-09-2006, 18:19

Guys, you have her all wrong. I wonder what she weighs? I'm thinking that if she's sunk in the right place she can create a heck of a mooring.

Rick in Florida

hellosailor · 14-09-2006, 20:48

Aye, and that's a wee little anchor he's got on the bow.

Must be an ENCHANTED ANCHOR if it holds that big boat.<G>

14-09-2006, 21:04

Some how I think the mud is holding it just fine

**GordMay** · 30-09-2006, 04:27

ANCHORING RIGHTS NEWS
Find out what has been to stop Anti-Anchoring legislation.
Click Here to read the latest, and who to contact if you've been told to "Move On!"
http://www.ssca.org/anchorrights.pdf

HB7175 and SB2128 contain the following provisions:

• Provides funding for local projects regarding uniform waterway markers, boat ramps, boat lifts and hoists, marine railways, public boat launching facilities, and derelict vessel removal.

• Authorizes marina owners or employees to take steps and charge reasonable fees to secure a vessel in a marina after the issuance of a tropical storm or hurricane watch has been issued and requires marina owners to give contractual notice of such authority.

• Clarifies local governments can enact or enforce regulations prohibiting or restricting mooring or anchoring within the marked boundaries of mooring fields. It also clarifies local authorities may not regulate the anchoring outside such mooring fields.

• Directs the Department of Highway Safety and Motor Vehicles to provide forms for giving notification concerning change of interest and address of the vessel owner.

• Provides for the distribution of vessel registration fees to counties and specifies the utilization of such funds relating to boat access.

• Provides grant program funding for the removal of derelict vessels to local governments and directs FWCC to implement a plan to seek federal disaster funds relating to the removal of derelict vessels.

• Derelict vessel removal and authorization of such removal is extended to all law enforcement officers.

• Provides exemption for certain floating vessel structures from environmental resource permitting.

• Provides provisions relating to abandoned and derelict vessels and the removal of such vessels, penalties for nonremoval of such vessels, and removal provisions for derelict vessels located on private property.

From the Florida House of Representatives: http://www.myfloridahouse.gov/
HB 7175 - Vessels
Goto: http://www.myfloridahouse.gov/sectio...x?BillId=33974

BBill · 30-09-2006, 06:36

I suppose Florida cities will now move to get 100% of their waters designated as official mooring fields to retain control.

B.

30-09-2006, 06:48

Quote:

Originally Posted by BBill

I suppose Florida cities will now move to get 100% of their waters designated as official mooring fields to retain control.

B.

These Florida cities will have to get permits from the state and federal gov't. Then they'll have to come up with the money to install all these fields and maintain them. Anything is possible but what is more likely is that the cities will try other avenues of harassment. Building giant mooring fields everywhere isn't practical and will most likely get shot down by the state and feds.

But then maybe the feds are in on it. They could run surveilence 24/7 with their giant fleet of black helecoptors. I hear they're working on a black submarine to give to Miami Beach for covert ops against freeloading sailors. They're training Manatees to chew on anchor lines and even equipping some of the Manatees with steel cutters for anchor chain. If that doesn't work, they have a chemical they are going to add to the water that eats fiberglass in 3 days. After that, they'll just board your boat and shoot you. It's been planned by Carl Rove for years.

Tropic Cat · 30-09-2006, 22:00

Gord

Yes, that was what was released to the press and reported. Here is what was passed.

3) Notwithstanding any other provisions of this section,

137 in order to minimize damage to a vessel and to protect marina
138 property, private property, and the environment, a marina owner
139 may provide by contract that in the event a vessel owner fails
140 to promptly remove a vessel from a marina after a tropical storm
141 or hurricane watch has been issued, the marina owner, operator,
142 employee, or agent may remove the vessel, if reasonable, from
143 its slip or take whatever reasonable actions are deemed
144 necessary to properly secure a vessel to minimize damage to a
145 vessel and to protect marina property, private property, and the
146 environment and may charge the vessel owner a reasonable fee for 147 any such services rendered. In order to add such a provision to
148 a contract, the marina owner must provide notice to the vessel
149 owner in any such contract in a font size of at least 10 points
150 and in substantially the following form:
151
152 NOTICE TO VESSEL OWNER
153
154 The undersigned hereby informs you that in the event you fail to
155 remove your vessel from the marina promptly (timeframe to be
156 determined between the marina owner or operator and the vessel
157 owner) after the issuance of a tropical storm or hurricane watch
158 for (insert geographic area), Florida, under Florida law, the
159 undersigned or his or her employees or agents are authorized to
160 remove your vessel, if reasonable, from its slip or take any and
161 all other reasonable actions deemed appropriate by the
162 undersigned or his or her employees or agents in order to better
163 secure your vessel and to protect marina property, private
164 property, and the environment. You are further notified that you
165 may be charged a reasonable fee for any such action.
166 (4) A marina owner, operator, employee, or agent shall not
167 be held liable for any damage incurred to a vessel from storms
168 or hurricanes and is held harmless as a result of such actions.
169 Nothing in this section may be construed to provide immunity to
170 a marina operator, employee, or agent for any damage caused by
171 intentional acts or negligence when removing or securing a
172 vessel as permitted under this section.

Tropic Cat · 30-09-2006, 22:12

It's clearer when read in the bill text. This is the final revision of the bill. On the link Gord supplied, you will see the revisions as the bill made it's way thru committees. This was a late revision to the bill to appease the insurance companies.

Page 6.

http://www.myfloridahouse.gov/Sectio...5&Session=2006

Jimske · 01-10-2006, 18:12

In a previous post I said that one could find decent anchorages if one looked around a bit.

Well, I have been told to leave two sites in the last month in Connecticut waters by Harbormasters. Interestingly enough both areas were well out of the way and not even close to other boats.

But I was told that these are restricted areas - no anchoring allowed. You would think that this time of year things would be a little quieter. . .

So, I am wondering what happens if I just don't move? Any ideas on this.

Also, I am truly wondering how truly legal some of these restrictions are. The USCG does not restrict vessels in these particular areas I am speaking of. I understand that the harbormasters ahve jursiciton given to them by USCG in designated areas. But outside these areas??

Jim