Originally Posted by Greaph
I did actually learn a few things searching the forum as suggested (including the search engine
seems anemic). I wasnt aware of the consistent build shortcuts, particularly after 1980. The ones I've been looking at from afar are in the 50-70k range and have well documented maintenance
and records. I am not averse to a cheaper project
boat, but all repairs
would need to be completed and the vessel ready in an 18m time period after I bought it, and it would preferably be ready for light coastal sailing immediately.
My upper limit at this time is 70k. If I wait a year or 18m, I can stretch that to 150k, bringing some of those Lord Nelsons and Hans Christians into reach. This is probably the best course of action, but honestly, Hellkat and I have been away from the salt
too long. It will be difficult.
The shortcuts taken by most Taiwan
builders in the earlier days result in some VERY expensive boats to own now - rotten cores in decks and deck
structures, poor quality stainless for critical fittings and tanks
, wet rudders with weak internal structures, non-marine wire, on and on. Some were better, some were worse. Even in one yard and in the same design quality could vary a lot. If somebody hasn't been through these things and fixed them - you will have to $$$$. I worked for Ted Hood
in 1985-86, and they specified the materials to the last detail and supervised build process very closely - and got some good results. I put a lot of miles on a few different Little Harbor 53s and others and they were great boats, though some of the system installs could be weak.
I want to suggest two boats for you to look at that both have way higher original build quality than most Taiwan
boats of that era. It's not that there won't be problems and issues from age and etc., but most of the time you're not having to fix problems from the original build!
The first is a Trintella IV, Also called a Victory 40. A close friend owned one for decades and used her hard, and I once delivered one down the North Sea from Norway
in April! It's more of a motorsailer
, shallow draft
with a big engine, but they're beautifully built and they can sail pretty well once you fall off a bit:
The second is an Amphitrite 43, another beautifully built boat and a legendary Holman & Pye design. I've been aboard several, never sailed one. I believe she will sail pretty well for what she is, definitely better than the Trintella. There are a lot for sale
right now, from $45K to $145K - maybe if you like the boat there's one in there that work
for you! Here are three in your price
Who knows how badly people want to sell - so it's worth looking at all of them on yachtworld to see what's out there.
PS - it's worth saying that I often see Amphitrites out actually cruising - the sign of a successful design/build!