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30-07-2013, 10:13
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#166
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cruiser
Join Date: Aug 2011
Location: Tampa Bay area
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Re: Security
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Originally Posted by goboatingnow
Equally nick " reducto as absurdism" is not a useful addition to your arguments.
No where did i say the military is bad ,
no where did I say the police are automatons , I mentioned they were trained and equipped to deal with societies issues and that's what most people on society wants. Outside of the Us civilised society do not see individual personal firearms as a solution to anything.
What I mentioned as claptrap was your quoting , ie Grossman idiotic piece , which is widely paraphrased or requoted by US gun advocates .
It is claptrap because it attempts to paraphrase complex human societies into absurdly simplistic comparisons. A comparison that in fact is not even present in the wild. Wolves hunt to live. Humans do evil deeds not to survive ( in the main outside a war situation).
Then you have use of pejorative words like
" pink " " sheep" etc
Let me tell you Nick I am fortunate to know several real " heroes" , they are modest , meek individuals who process extraordinary reserves of courage and clear thinking in extremis.
I also happen to know some ex military types , now mercenaries , classic warriors. The world however really doesn't need these.
Of course there Are evil doers about. Equally more are killed on the roads , perhaps as should brand motorists sociopaths are execute them with our warriors
This nonsense propagated by pro gun lobbies ( which is giving all legitimate gun users a bad name ) where the world is evil , everyone is out to get you and to be free you need a Glock is just that pure claptrap.
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It's my opinion and some " blue shirt " (look it up ), wont cower me out of it.
Dave
( not sheep ,nor wolf, I prefer big cat analogy, mountain lion ?
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We have them in Florida, too (mountain lions) only they're called panthers when they're nearly black, as many here are. Technically they're a "subspecies," but since they can mate with mountain lions -- they're really cougars.
Right.
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30-07-2013, 10:43
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#167
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Moderator

Join Date: Oct 2008
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Re: Security
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Originally Posted by goboatingnow
Dave
( not sheep ,nor wolf, I prefer big cat analogy, mountain lion ?
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Originally Posted by Rakuflames
We have them in Florida, too (mountain lions) only they're called panthers when they're nearly black, as many here are. Technically they're a "subspecies," but since they can mate with mountain lions -- they're really cougars.
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ROFL
So does that mean Dave is possibly a cougar?
(Sorry Dave, I just couldn't resist  )
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30-07-2013, 10:48
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#168
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Nearly an old salt
Join Date: Jun 2009
Location: Lefkas Marina ,Greece
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Re: Security
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Originally Posted by Seaworthy Lass
ROFL
So does that mean Dave is possibly a cougar?
(Sorry Dave, I just couldn't resist  )
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Im outed , in reality Im a gun owing 65 year old two time divorcee who lives in montana and the nearest ocean is a 1000 miles away !!
I smoke and wear varicose vein protectors as well
dave ( the truth will out )
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30-07-2013, 12:55
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#169
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Registered User
Join Date: Sep 2010
Posts: 2,909
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Re: Security
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Originally Posted by David_Old_Jersey
I will let Dave chip in his 2 cents, but on the Sociopath thing, most of them don't actually kill anyone. In general it's the Psychopaths yer gotta watch out for -for they be mental  .
Psychopath vs Sociopath - Difference and Comparison | Diffen
As the joke goes: Psychopaths enjoy killing stuff, Sociopaths don't.........
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Anti-social personality disorder results in extremely violent acts. Though psychiatrists often consider and treat sociopaths and psychopaths as the same, criminologists treat them as different because of the difference in their outward behaviour.
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This is not necessarily true. The FBI treats and teaches anti-social personality disorder as basically being the same problem from a criminal investigation perspective, regardless of whether the subject is clinically defined as a psychopath or sociopath. At least I know they did when I went through in 1988.
I admit it's a fine line and often uncertain distinction.
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30-07-2013, 14:10
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#170
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Armchair Bucketeer
Join Date: Oct 2006
Posts: 10,012
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Re: Security
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Originally Posted by Group9
I admit it's a fine line and often uncertain distinction.
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As a broad rule.......
If someone enjoys chopping up a body they are a psychopath. If they are watching TV at the same time then they are a Sociopath  .
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30-07-2013, 14:11
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#171
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Registered User
Join Date: Oct 2005
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Re: Security
I'm just posting in here before the lock comes!
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30-07-2013, 14:14
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#172
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Armchair Bucketeer
Join Date: Oct 2006
Posts: 10,012
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Re: Security
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Originally Posted by Seaworthy Lass
ROFL
So does that mean Dave is possibly a cougar?
(Sorry Dave, I just couldn't resist  )
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Cougars are rarely called Dave.......
.......of course we may be looking at a different internet to each other  .
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30-07-2013, 14:49
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#173
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Seaman, Delivery skipper


Join Date: Jan 2010
Location: PORTUGAL
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Re: Security
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Originally Posted by psneeld
OK.... that seems to be your opinion... and I bet guys like Hitler and Hussein...just wanted peace and harmony.
Not only does history suggest you are incorrect, but a huge amount of professional writings as well.....
Other people are entitled to their opinions without the label Claptrap associated with it.
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Seeing as History is written by the Winners its rarely the truth...
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30-07-2013, 15:00
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#174
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Armchair Bucketeer
Join Date: Oct 2006
Posts: 10,012
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Re: Security
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Originally Posted by psneeld
OK.... that seems to be your opinion... and I bet guys like Hitler and Hussein...just wanted peace and harmony.
Not only does history suggest you are incorrect, but a huge amount of professional writings as well.....
Other people are entitled to their opinions without the label Claptrap associated with it.
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I think they both did.
Just not very keen on folks dissenting from their ideas for peace and harmony.
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30-07-2013, 15:20
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#175
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Registered User
Join Date: Oct 2010
Location: Avalon, NJ
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Re: Security
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Originally Posted by David_Old_Jersey
I think they both did.
Just not very keen on folks dissenting from their ideas for peace and harmony.
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Yes they did...thankfully there were enough people willing to do something to end their methods.
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30-07-2013, 15:21
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#176
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Registered User
Join Date: Mar 2009
Location: Homer, AK is my home port
Boat: Skookum 53'
Posts: 4,042
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Re: Security
Be reasonable, do it MY WAY!
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30-07-2013, 15:35
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#177
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Seaman, Delivery skipper


Join Date: Jan 2010
Location: PORTUGAL
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Re: Security
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Originally Posted by psneeld
Yes they did...thankfully there were enough people willing to do something to end their methods.
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LOLOL
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30-07-2013, 15:49
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#178
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Registered User
Join Date: Mar 2013
Posts: 347
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Re: Security
Originally Posted by psneeld
Yes they did...thankfully there were enough people willing to do something to end their methods.
Quote:
Originally Posted by boatman61
LOLOL
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What am I missing here, where's the humor ?
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30-07-2013, 17:16
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#179
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cruiser
Join Date: Nov 2007
Location: Probably in an anchorage or a boatyard..
Boat: Ebbtide 33' steel cutter
Posts: 5,031
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Anyone else think there may be a cultural element to all this?
Fear of being boarded seems to be a lot higher on the side of the Atlantic where the sun sets than the other side. Or maybe it's just people are more vocal about it.
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30-07-2013, 17:53
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#180
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cruiser
Join Date: Aug 2011
Location: Tampa Bay area
Boat: Hunter 31'
Posts: 5,731
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Re: Security
Quote:
Originally Posted by Seaworthy Lass
ROFL
So does that mean Dave is possibly a cougar?
(Sorry Dave, I just couldn't resist  )
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Only women are cougars -- older women who go after younger men.
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