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10-07-2010, 12:50
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Join Date: Jul 2010
Location: New York
Boat: Hallberg Rassy 31
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Possible to Cross Atlantic from New York to Spain in July ?
I purchase the boat in May, i am in New York i'ld like to sail in Spain, my sailing boat is Hallberg Rassy 31.
I'm ready to sail, it's possible to across the Atlantic in this period?
Isaia
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10-07-2010, 12:59
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10-07-2010, 13:04
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Yes, it's possible. From NY, I would go up the coast to Nova Scotia or Newfoundland, park and look at the weather. Depart on a day during which there is no hurricane activity anywhere in the Atlantic.
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10-07-2010, 13:12
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Anything’s possible! But I would not try it this time of year due to hurricane season- why not spend a little more time getting to know your boat and leave in the spring? I think most folks cross from West to East in late May?
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10-07-2010, 13:16
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Join Date: Jul 2010
Location: New York
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Ram
Anything’s possible! But I would not try it this time of year due to hurricane season- why not spend a little more time getting to know your boat and leave in the spring? I think most folks cross from West to East in late May?
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The problem my "VISA" expire next week...........
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10-07-2010, 13:18
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Join Date: Apr 2008
Location: U.S., Northeast
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Quote:
Originally Posted by KWICK
it's possible to across the Atlantic in this period
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It's possible and it has been done.
Did you really mean to ask "What are the risks associated with crossing North Atlantic West to East in July in a 31 foot sailboat"?
How much sailing experience do you have? What route are you proposing to take?
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10-07-2010, 13:20
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Quote:
Originally Posted by KWICK
The problem my "VISA" expire next week...........
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May be easier to store your boat until next May June and get a new visa.
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10-07-2010, 13:22
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perhaps airfare home now and then return in the spring to sail home safely.
Or get a visa for Canada and go hang there 9 months?
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10-07-2010, 13:27
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Join Date: Jul 2010
Location: ft.myers,fl
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Being limited in time is usually a dangerous situation.If you must leave in a week,sail up to the maritimes and visit on a visa til april of next year,then head out on the northern route and arive in spain in may when the weather starts to get really nice.
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10-07-2010, 13:35
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Join Date: Jul 2010
Location: New York
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Ziggy
It's possible and it has been done.
Did you really mean to ask "What are the risks associated with crossing North Atlantic West to East in July in a 31 foot sailboat"?
How much sailing experience do you have? What route are you proposing to take?
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I want to stay below 40 degrees LAT. I had the following experience, 1993 acrosso the Atlantic Ocean from Canary Island to Barbados with 44 foot, 2001 across the Atlantic Ocean from Panama, Jamaica Bermuda Azores Gibilter, with 47 foot Vagabond. And coastal sail of course, that's my experiences.
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10-07-2010, 13:42
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Join Date: Jul 2010
Location: New York
Boat: Hallberg Rassy 31
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Help me to take the decision, my plan was to sail to Sint Maarten but everybody say to me it's too late, and Monday expire my american three months visa period. So i think to sail to Europe and enjoy tha boat there, i 'dont want leave the boat anywhere. I live on her.
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10-07-2010, 13:58
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I think you have gotten pretty consistent advice here.
Your boat and the Atlantic care nothing about your lack of pre-planning. Presumably the US Immigration dept does, and that is the more critical issue at this point. If you can't extend your visa, leave.
Wisdom here says if you must take the boat go north and apply for a visa in Canada.
Do not cross the Atlantic during the hurricane season. The odds of you dying are much higher than at other times of the year.
If you insist on crossing, the advice here has been sail as far north as the Newfoundlands and then skip across at the narrow spot between storms. And keep your fingers crossed that nothing goes wrong, because the window can close very rapidly.
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ain't what ya do, it's the way that ya do it...
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10-07-2010, 14:48
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Wait a minute, if you came to the states on your sailboat, the rules are not the same for the guy who came on an airplane. As a mariner, you should be able to stay in New York harbour almost indefinately. Hopefully, someone will chime in with a good grasp of the rules.
I standby my first answer to your direct question, though, "is it possible?" Yes, with all the caveats of preparation, experience, weather window, yadda yadda yadda.
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10-07-2010, 15:12
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Join Date: Jul 2010
Location: ft.myers,fl
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Be smart!
This is no time to be going to the caribbean!You should know better than that.Watch the weather and go north.Use your head,think about what you are doing dont let a time limit rule your thinking.This your life you are taking in your hands.
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10-07-2010, 15:35
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#15
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Another thought - depending on where you are from, you may be able to "check out" of the U.S. in New York and sail to Nova Scotia, where you will be admitted by Canadian authorities. You can then return to the U.S. and get a fresh visa, or entering as a mariner, not need a visa at all.
After you have "checked out" of the U.S. in NY, you are still allowed safe harbor along the New England coast enroute to NS, should you need it.
Do not cross the Atlantic over visa panic. It is doable, sure, but there are other ways to cope, if need be.
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