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29-12-2012, 08:52
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Re: In Prison in St Lucia
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Originally Posted by CarinaPDX
Actually, that is a less than precise use of the term "3rd world": the term originated during the cold war, when the US, NATO, and other allies were the 1st world, the communist countries the 2nd world, and the non-aligned nations the 3rd world. (No prizes for figuring out who came up with the term that put the US 1st!)
Of course the term has come to imply other things, but it would be better to be explicit about those things than to use such a term so loosely.
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Yea, like "assault weapon".
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29-12-2012, 08:59
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Armchair Bucketeer
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Re: In Prison in St Lucia
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Originally Posted by Therapy
Wow.
The stuff that is on your mind................... 
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Your comment kinda fits in nicely with my next point  .
Not only may "you" one day find yourself in similar legal doodah as Eric when abroad (whether rightly or wrongly) - but may also find yerself being judged by yer own digital footprint  (by fellow cruisers deciding whether you "deserve" any help. and possibly even by the authorities deciding on your character).
My real name is Phil  .
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29-12-2012, 09:01
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Re: In Prison in St Lucia
Phil,
We can all post a thumb up or down and solve it quickly.
No need for facts.
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29-12-2012, 10:40
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Re: In Prison in St Lucia
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Yea, like "assault weapon".

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huh 
Dave
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29-12-2012, 14:12
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Re: In Prison in St Lucia
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Originally Posted by goboatingnow
huh 
Dave
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Quote:
Originally Posted by CarinaPDX
Actually, that is a less than precise use of the term "3rd world": the term originated during the cold war, when the US, NATO, and other allies were the 1st world, the communist countries the 2nd world, and the non-aligned nations the 3rd world. (No prizes for figuring out who came up with the term that put the US 1st!)
Of course the term has come to imply other things, but it would be better to be explicit about those things than to use such a term so loosely.
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Like the term "3rd world". No real definition. Vague. Etc.
Now back to St. Lucia and the lack of information...................
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29-12-2012, 15:01
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Re: In Prison in St Lucia
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Originally Posted by Don Lucas
all the sea lawyers, chest thumpers, and "I'll kill you if you come on my boat" people on this thread do you listen/read yourselves?
sometimes, lots of times actually, I feel the biggest danger crime wise in cruising are the other cruisers
200+ posts about a subject that we don't even have any details about. I will admit that I was curious and Goggled it. But that gets you this thread, in other words the info isn't even out there to be "discussing"!
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Feel free to find a more useful thread for yourself.
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29-12-2012, 15:46
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Re: In Prison in St Lucia
Funnily enough, how you present, usually has a bearing on your activities.
Dreads, a mini freighter and a swash buckling demeanour, backs up the suggestion
"there might be more to this than meets the eye". Even if it is only that the local constabulary don't like the look of you & a situ developed. Live on the edge;Then expect to slip over it now & again.
Lack of info? Maybe because the details ain't helpful.
The best of luck to you Eric, if you deserve it.
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01-01-2013, 01:19
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Re: In Prison in St Lucia
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The best of luck to you Eric, if you deserve it.[/QUOTE]
That Sir is the bottom line here.
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01-01-2013, 09:57
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Re: In Prison in St Lucia
WOW ! I'm amazed that some folks here are condemning this man based on his "look". Making drug comments etc. after viewing the video posted earlier. THATS some real slimey **** as far as I'm concerned !
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01-01-2013, 11:43
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Re: In Prison in St Lucia
We haven't condemmed the man. We simply made an observation and left the conclusion open. If you don't think your appearance affects the way you are treated then you live in another world.
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01-01-2013, 12:06
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Re: In Prison in St Lucia
To a smaller point.. If this sailor was released tomorrow..what kind of shape do you think his boat is in? I bet it has been stripped to the bone
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01-01-2013, 12:16
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Re: In Prison in St Lucia
Does anyone have anything pointing to the fact that he is guilty? If not then he can only be presumed to be innocent regardless of his appearance
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01-01-2013, 17:28
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Re: In Prison in St Lucia
My only observation based on the video is that it is highly unlikely that he was boarded with the intent of theft. Why were three guys on his boat in the middle of the night, I don't know, but would guess it wasn't to steal his macbook or camera.
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02-01-2013, 07:00
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Got this off a local news station, not sure of it has already been posted:
French national charged
On Tuesday 22nd May French national Eric Somaire was taken before the court for causing the death of Lucas “Crucian” Francois.
The incident occurred on Saturday 12th May at about 4:30 PM at Pigeon Island.
Lucas Francois died from asphyxia consistent with a drowning and multiple blunt force traumas.
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02-01-2013, 07:58
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Re: In Prison in St Lucia
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Originally Posted by Lajos
Got this off a local news station, not sure of it has already been posted:
French national charged
On Tuesday 22nd May French national Eric Somaire was taken before the court for causing the death of Lucas “Crucian” Francois.
The incident occurred on Saturday 12th May at about 4:30 PM at Pigeon Island.
Lucas Francois died from asphyxia consistent with a drowning and multiple blunt force traumas.
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Thanks.
“... Lucas Francois died as a result of asphyxia consistent to a drowning and multiple blunt force traumas ...”
➥ NEWS ITEM
➥ HTS Channel 4: St Lucia News, Online News, Breaking News, Sports News, Live Radio
➥ A French national has been charged in the drowning death of a local beach vendor
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