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Old 26-02-2021, 16:12   #1
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Harbors of Refuge on New Jersey Coast?

Are there any safe harbors to enter above cape may during a storm?
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Old 26-02-2021, 16:15   #2
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Re: harbors of refuge on jersey coast?

Of course. Do you know how to use a chart?
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Old 26-02-2021, 16:18   #3
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Re: harbors of refuge on jersey coast?

could you be more specific
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Old 26-02-2021, 16:21   #4
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Re: harbors of refuge on jersey coast?

I passed that coast twice this season. Once Northbound, once South. Both times were super annoying, but the payoff of NY Harbor, LI Sound, Cape Cod, and Maine were well worth it.

Northbound I stopped in Cape May, then sailed straight on to NY Harbor. I had crew aboard and it took us a little over 30 hours in maddeningly light winds.

Southbound I intended to stop in Shark River Inlet, since I was single-handing and didn't want to go all the way from NY Harbor to Cape May. However, when I reached Shark River, it was dense fog and a decent swell. I didn't feel good about the shallow entrance combined with the bridge right at the inlet, so I pressed on to Atlantic City. I believe Shark Inlet would have been practicable, but I wouldn't have wanted to do it in a real storm. Atlantic City was easy as could be, and definitely doable in most, if not all, conditions. Even so, it took me 20 hrs to sail NY Harbor to Atlantic City with favorable conditions the whole way.

I've also heard Mannasquin (sp?) is manageable, but I never tried it.

Bottom line is the Jersey coast is a pain in the a$$, and you should be patient about getting a good weather window to blow past it.
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Old 26-02-2021, 16:23   #5
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Of course. Do you know how to use a chart?

Thanks for your immensely helpful response. This behavior definitely doesn't discourage new users from posting questions. /s
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Old 26-02-2021, 16:23   #6
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Re: harbors of refuge on jersey coast?

Well it is hard to be more specific when you haven’t. What is your draft, type of vessel, engine power? Are you looking for an inlet before the storm to ride it out or are you talking about a bailout after you run into a raging nor’easter?
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Old 26-02-2021, 16:27   #7
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Re: harbors of refuge on jersey coast?

https://marinas.com/browse/harbor/US/NJ
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Old 26-02-2021, 16:38   #8
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Re: harbors of refuge on jersey coast?

https://www.offshoreblue.com/cruise/inlets-nj.php

Absecon Inlet into Atlantic City and Sandy Hook.
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Well it is hard to be more specific when you havenít. What is your draft, type of vessel, engine power? Are you looking for an inlet before the storm to ride it out or are you talking about a bailout after you run into a raging noríeaster?
It would also be hard to be less specific than your snide response. The questions you just posted are helpful and relevant. Why not just lead with those instead of with rudeness? Or if that's too much trouble, why not just stay silent?

But no, you chose to lead with obnoxious snide-ness.
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Old 26-02-2021, 17:02   #10
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It would also be hard to be less specific than your snide response. The questions you just posted are helpful and relevant. Why not just lead with those instead of with rudeness? Or if that's too much trouble, why not just stay silent?

But no, you chose to lead with obnoxious snide-ness.
Are you the forum police or something?
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Are you the forum police or something?
No, just someone who likes to encourage new users to engage and learn something. Responses like yours discourage that, so I call you out on it
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Old 26-02-2021, 17:12   #12
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No, just someone who likes to encourage new users to engage and learn something. Responses like yours discourage that, so I call you out on it
Both the OP’s question and your aggressive defense of it strike me as a little strange. It is a bit like asking if there is any where to get off the NJ Turnpike north of Pennsylvania. My post was intended to highlight the necessity of looking at a chart if you are going offshore. But maybe your soft love approach is better.
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Both the OPís question and your aggressive defense of it strike me as a little strange. It is a bit like asking if there is any where to get off the NJ Turnpike north of Pennsylvania. My post was intended to highlight the necessity of looking at a chart if you are going offshore. But maybe your soft love approach is better.
I took your response as meant to point out that the question was too vague. But since your reply was so vague I couldn't be sure, and was apparently wrong. Much better to just say what you mean and add to the collective knowledge instead of to the collective confusion and frustration.

To be clear, op's question was too vague, and difficult to answer effectively, and hinted at a lack of preparation for a trip down the Jersey coast. But there are productive ways to respond to that vague question, and then there's what you did.

Stop trying to defend being a dick, you dick
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No offense was meant to you or the OP. Lighten up.
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Re: harbors of refuge on jersey coast?

If weather decreed I needed safe harbour I would not attempt anything other than Sandy hook or Atlantic City. The others scare the hell out of me in bad weather especially if wind is opposing tide.
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