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17-11-2008, 11:16
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From Miami to Mona Passage, Puerto Rico
We are planning to sail from Miami to Puerto Rico, and are asking for some first hand pros and cons.
One route which seems to be the most direct route is via the Great Bahama Bank. The other/s, more picturesque routes is via the Bahamas (Miami, Nassau, Ezuma Sound, Long Island, Mayaguana Island, The Caicos Islands, Puerto Rico).
Any comments on the above alternatives or other suggestions would be greatly received..
Many thanks
rascalarg
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17-11-2008, 11:32
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You may be able to sail east, and then south if you want a straight shot. If you have time do the islands on the way down. Lots of sleep, and things to do. Plus a great social life, or solitude....you choose......i2f
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17-11-2008, 12:26
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"Sailing" encompasses both Cruising & Delivering.
Are you looking to make an express delivery, via the quickest, or "most direct" route; or are you desiring toenjoy a pleasure cruise towards your destination?
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17-11-2008, 13:32
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What kind of boat? What timeframe?
(It matters....a lot, since getting east and south from Miami can be very difficult).
Bill
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17-11-2008, 15:40
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I have never sailed nonstop from south Florida to PR or the Virgins and I don’t know anyone who has. I have done it twice via the Bahamas and T&C. IMHO it’s the only way to go. The 'direct' route puts you at sea for something approaching a 1000 miles; much of that time will be close hauled against prevailing winds; and that’s if the weather is good.
We delivered a friend’s Catalina 36 from Ft. Lauderdale to St. Thomas via the Mona passage. Part of the deal was that we could take our time. It took 6 weeks and that was rushing it. My advice is to check into the Bahamas (I would probably skip Nassau - I would not skip Exuma), take your time island hopping south and east, and enjoy yourselves. However, beware of the Bahamas - you might find it hard to leave.
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17-11-2008, 17:51
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My first "long haul" was the thorny path east directly into the wind mostly under power and then south to Puerto Rico after passing the Bahamas. The worst part was passing the gulf stream with the wind from the NE at the tail end of a cold front. I took 10 extra 10 gal tanks of diesel and just went, but it was in the interest of time. It took about 2 weeks. If time isn't a factor take the thornless Path. I recommend reading Gentleman's Guide to passages South: The Thornless Path to Windward by Bruce Van Sant. It gives the pros and cons of both approaches. Here is the amazon address:
Amazon.com: Gentleman's Guide to Passages South: The Thornless Path to Windward, 3rd Ed.: Bruce Van Sant: Books
Either way avoid the Mona Passage if the seas are high.
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18-11-2008, 06:16
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I know the thornless path is the fun way to do it. If time is a problem then it will be a tough go going east, but not undoable. I have done Jax Fl to Georgetown, and there is a ton of things to do between Nassau & Georgetown. Time is the important part. How much time do you have?
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18-11-2008, 13:25
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The offshore route requires you to get directly east to nearly 60 degrees west before turning south. This means being close hauled AND having a good engine and lots of diesel. Once you turn south...you canstay under sail. Would not suggest the Mona as a destination if you go that way...maybe San Juan or Fajardo . You want to hit the Mona on a GOOD day and you can't plan that with an offshore passage. If you need to get to Boqueron or someplace on the south shore...go at it in a discrete jump after making landfall in SJ or Fajardo. You'll have the wind at your back and be able to plan for a good weather day trip.
The benefit of offshore is 10-14 days vs. 6 weeks or more on the "thornless path". It took us 3 months that way.
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30-11-2008, 12:29
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From delivery experience I can tell you that the non-stop offshore route is very hard work as is going through the Old Bahama Channel north of Cuba, both are into wind and or current. Best plan is getting there by cruising the Bahamas and the Turks, which is what we plan to do starting January. It is much easier to transit the banks rather than staying in deep water providing you don't draw too much! However, on the banks it is safer to stay on the GPS chart lines...too many coral heads off the lines.
Puerto Del Ray marina in Fajardo PR is a great place and the security is very good. We will be there by Febuary 20th.
Phil
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23-12-2008, 08:07
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Puerto del Rey is one of the biggest marinas in the Caribbean, if not the biggest. Another very nice, and smaller, marina in Fajardo is Marina Puerto Chico. Also with excellent security.
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23-12-2008, 08:59
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Indigo Moon - Offshore Passage to BVI
Read the attached trip log of Indigo Moon. They chose the offshore route and give a great day by day account of the journey.
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