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12-08-2009, 09:37
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Registered User
Join Date: Mar 2009
Location: Currently travelling the Caribbean
Boat: 1979 Catalina 30 - Aibell
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Canadians Bound for the Caribbean - Got Questions!
Hey Guys,
Going sailing in the Bahamas/Caribbean come November! A few logistical things we still need sorting out though.
We are Canadian. Will there be any trouble for us buying a boat in the States? We're looking for a used boat in Florida.
Do we need visas to travel from country to country?
Is it possible to find short term work anywhere? Like week to week? What about for a longer period, say a month or two?
Do we need any medical shots in advance?
About 3 months now until our trip, thanks so much for helping us get some stuff sorted out!
Daniel
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12-08-2009, 10:04
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Registered User
Join Date: Apr 2004
Location: Toronto
Boat: CS36Merlin, "La Belle Aurore"
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Lots of boats in FL. Just bring money.
No visa required for most countries.
Not much chance of foreigners getting work anywhere.
I would get a couple of hepatitis shots.
Don't count on buying a boat and heading out in short order. It may be months to get a suitable boat and even more time to get it ready. Be prepared to see a lot of dogs before you find the right boat.
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Toronto in summer, Bahamas in winter.
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12-08-2009, 10:11
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CF Adviser
Join Date: Dec 2007
Location: Wherever our boat is; Playa Zaragoza, Isla Margarita
Boat: 1994 Solaris Sunstream 40
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Vasco has it right on all counts. Depending upon where you are in Canada, flights to Fla. are very cheap. I would set up some appointments on likey suspects (including test sails), take a week now and fly down for inspections. If you find one you want to buy, make sure the offer is conditional on a survey. You may end up with a price adjustment (or the ability to get out of a deal for a bad boat), but you will also get a chance to find out what will be required before you depart. I would also get a closing date around your time of arrival to allow sufficient time in Florida to get the boat ready (see below).
Yes, there is also a limit to the time you can keep the boat in Florida post purchase before being required to pay state taxes (and it is fairly short - I am thinking its about a month). Where do you plan on registering the boat?
Brad
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12-08-2009, 10:37
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Location: Toronto
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Southern Star
Yes, there is also a limit to the time you can keep the boat in Florida post purchase before being required to pay state taxes (and it is fairly short - I am thinking its about a month). Where do you plan on registering the boat?
Brad
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The time limit can be as short as 10 days and the maximum is 90 days with certain limitations. Get out fast or pay the sales tax.
FL Dept Rev - Sales and Use Tax on Boats - Owners and Purchasers
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Toronto in summer, Bahamas in winter.
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12-08-2009, 10:47
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Join Date: Aug 2006
Location: Skagit City, WA
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When I bought in FL I was asked by the broker to sign a sheet saying I would leave in 90 days. If your boat is being worked on you might get an extension. If you fly to Fl the right time (no spring break etc going on) it can be cheap. I have rented cars during those periods for $14 a day and less for a weekly! If you stay further North like the Space Coast etc, you can get a little motel on the beach for $400 a week or so.
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12-08-2009, 10:50
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Join Date: Jun 2007
Location: West Indies, Now live aboard as cruiser/ voyager often with guest/ friends
Boat: 36' Bene
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Why are you set on buying in the States? Have you considered buying one in the Caribbean? It would probably save you a hard to the wind nasty sail down in the winter.
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I prefer a sailboat to a motorboat, and it is my belief that boat sailing is a finer, more difficult, and sturdier art than running a motor.
--- Jack London
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12-08-2009, 11:11
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"it's the journey , not the destination!" besides, they'd miss the best part of the whole Caribe... the Bahamas!
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12-08-2009, 11:14
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CF Adviser
Join Date: Dec 2007
Location: Wherever our boat is; Playa Zaragoza, Isla Margarita
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Good point, Reality Check - although the number of available boats is much smaller and the costs associated with going down and checking out what are bound to include a number of 'dogs' will be much higher. Further, in many places the cost and availability of parts for a refit will also be a negative.
Brad
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12-08-2009, 11:43
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Join Date: Sep 2007
Location: Cayuga Lake NY - or on the boat somewhere south of there
Boat: Caliber 40
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Buy on Lake Ontario and get a fresh water boat!
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12-08-2009, 12:22
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Join Date: Jun 2007
Location: West Indies, Now live aboard as cruiser/ voyager often with guest/ friends
Boat: 36' Bene
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Cheechako
"it's the journey , not the destination!" besides, they'd miss the best part of the whole Caribe... the Bahamas!
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BUT, the Bahamas are Not part of the Caribbean!!!
Many locations in the Caribbean have large availability of boats such as USVI, BVI. St Martin and others and the parts availability is generally not an huge issue as many chandeliers can deliver what you need or you can have one of the many US based companies ship them direct at very low cost such as Tropical Shipping.
Preselecting via internet and having a broker supply information will reduce the leg time and number of candidate boats. It really isn't much of a problem. I did it and large numbers of others have and are doing the same. I considered the trip down for final selection and a series of sea trials on the final few to be a vacation with benefits
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I prefer a sailboat to a motorboat, and it is my belief that boat sailing is a finer, more difficult, and sturdier art than running a motor.
--- Jack London
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12-08-2009, 12:31
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Join Date: Aug 2006
Location: Skagit City, WA
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I stand corrected, but they are on "the Path"
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12-08-2009, 14:02
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Join Date: Apr 2008
Location: On the boat - Carib, Chesapeake
Boat: 58 Taswell AS
Posts: 1,139
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Mine's for sale and ready to return to the Caribbean; already registered for the Carib 1500. See Yachtworld - Taswell 58.
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13-08-2009, 20:09
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Registered User
Join Date: Feb 2009
Location: A real life Zombie from FL
Boat: Gulfstar 53 - Osiris
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I would agree that you should look in the Caribbean. Start in Puerto Rico and work you way through the Virgins to St. Martin/St.Maarten and maybe even Antigua. There are so many charter agencies in this area that you probably can find a good boat reasonably ready to go. There are major boat parts stores on Puerto Rico, the Virgins and St Maarten. Prices will be higher than in Florida but you will save tons of money not having to slog upwind and up current through some seriously nasty water between the Bahamas and the Virgins. You can visit what you missed on the back back (downwind and downcurrent).
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14-08-2009, 09:35
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Join Date: Aug 2006
Location: Skagit City, WA
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There are a lot of boats stored in Trini that appear to need new partners too
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