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Old 06-05-2020, 14:23   #31
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Please provide citation to the differences in rules.
Boy do you miss a LOT of detail in an effort to push your agenda. Do you happen to own a news company?

Are you able to connect the logical dots here or do you need assistance?



12.28.060. - Anchoring regulations.

A. Transient Anchorage Areas. A chart, duly adopted by the council of the City of Newport, Rhode Island, delineating boundaries of transient anchorage areas (Outer Anchorage and Inner Harbor Anchorage) in the waters of the city is annexed hereto and is made a part hereof. Copies of said chart are available to interested parties at the harbormaster's office and on the city website (www.cityofnewport.com). B. General Regulations.1. Anchoring is not permitted in mooring areas. 2. Anchorage areas are for transient anchoring only. No vessel shall remain in the anchorage areas, defined in Section 12.28.060(A), longer than fourteen (14) consecutive days and must vacate the anchorage areas for a minimum of four days between visits. No vessel will be permitted to anchor in an anchoring area on a permanent basis.




Do you need me to walk you through the ramifications of the ordinances you posted and the ones I posted taken together? Can you piece together the logical conclusion, which I editorialized about in the first post?

Hint: the number 14 is central to the concept. As is the word “anchorage “
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Governor's Order Timeline:

WHEREAS, on March 9, 2020, I declared a state of emergency due to the dangers to health and life posed by COVID-19 and that declaration has been extended until at least May 8, 2020;
WHEREAS, the COVID-19 virus continues to spread and threatens to overwhelm the State's ability to respond;
WHEREAS, on March 13, 2020, I issued Executive Order 20-03 imposing
quarantine restrictions on persons returning to Rhode Island from outside the 5 0 states or the District of Columbia;
WHEREAS, on March 23, 2020, I issued Executive Order 20-10 imposing
quarantine restrictions on domestic air travelers returning to Rhode Island;
WHEREAS, on March 28, 2020, I issued Executive Order 20-14 imposing
quarantine restrictions on all travelers coming to Rhode Island from another state for nonwork-related purposes;



Reopening Rhode Island’s economy: The Governor unveiled a framework for safely reopening the economy. For details visit, ReopeningRI.com.

Stay At Home: The Governor has extended the stay-at-home order until May 8th. This means that all Rhode Islanders should stay home unless getting food, medicine, gas, or going to work.

Gatherings: All gatherings of more than 5 people are banned. Individuals should be interacting with the same people every day to minimize the risk of spread. This order does not apply to healthcare workers in a workplace setting, public transportation or office buildings. However, people must practice social distancing at all times.

Face Coverings: When people are in public, they should wear a cloth face covering. A cloth face covering is a material that covers the nose and mouth. It could be sewn by hand or improvised from household items such as scarves, T-shirts, or bandanas. VIDEO The only exceptions from these rules are for anyone whose health would be in jeopardy because of wearing a face covering or any children under 2 years old. Businesses should refer to RICOMMERCE.COM for rules and guidance on face coverings.

Travelers: Starting immediately, any person coming to Rhode Island by any mode of transportation after visiting another state for a non-work-related purpose must self-quarantine for 14 days. This restriction will not apply to public health, public safety or healthcare workers. MORE ON SELF-QUARANTINE https://health.ri.gov/publications/f...Quarantine.pdf

Commuters: Those who are able to work from home should do so, and anyone commuting in and out of the state for work should remain in their home when not at work.
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The 14 day at anchor limitation at New Port is Old News. It was enacted six years ago. Most anchorages in municipal areas have time restrictions, similar to say, limitations of days for camping in public campgrounds. It is about sharing the limited public resource. It does not matter if the vessel is small and inexpensive or a megayacht, the rules apply to all vessels, regardless of origin. It is not a class issue, or a local versus visitor issue. It is a high demand use harbor.

Now given the Covid-19 pandemic that one is required to self-isolate for a 14 day quarantine upon entry to R.I., one then would be required to move on at the end of the self-isolation period as the standard at anchor limitation also is active. There being no disembarking during the 14 day self-isolation. Rather similar to the 14 day S.I. required upon entry to Montana and many other states. No time to be traveling, Stay At Home.

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Date Posted: 2014-09-25
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Newport, Rhode Island, is known as the “Home of Maritime Commerce & Yachting.” A popular layover for vessels and crews from all over the world, this picturesque harbor town is considered a “must-go” destination, with world-renown festivals and events, every service a mariner could ever need, and room for thousands of vessels of any size, style and description at a dock, on a mooring, or at anchor. Newport vies with Fort Lauderdale, Florida, for the title of “Yachting Capital of the World.” The two iconic ports share another distinction – they are each the subject of a heated discussion on anchoring rights.

This year, Newport enacted a complete revamp of its City Harbor Ordinance. Anchoring is now restricted to a maximum of 14 consecutive days, and a vessel must vacate the anchorage areas for a minimum of four days between visits. In Newport, anchored vessels are required to be “attended” – the persons onboard may go ashore, but not leave the city (this rule is similar in the previous ordinance). Other harbors in the Northeast have anchoring limits, notably the 3-day limit for Lake Tashmoo and Lagoon Pond on Martha’s Vineyard.
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Holy cow. I didn't say anything like all this you are talking about. Please go back to read the post.

I said the 1% types are the only ones being allowed in these popular Rhode Island locations.

Be it because they have a summer home on Block Island (as posted above), or because they spent $10,000 on a slip for the yacht in Newport.

Money in both cases gets you a completely different treatment.
Drop a hook and enjoy the boat.

They are not having fun by not letting cruisers on the island. It’s a hardship for everyone.... even the 1%.
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RI’s gov’t exhibited their duplicitous nature when they started stopping vehicles with NY plates at the border. Granted, it lasted a day before they opted to quarantine everyone out of state, but it still sticks in my craw. Gonna be a long while before I spend any money in the state, at a dock or on land.

I do feel sorry for the residents that suffer as a result, as I’m not a fan of my state gov’t either and wouldn’t want it held against me, but it is what it is.
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Montanan - I think the mods have tried to make the point, which has fallen on deaf ears, but the endless cut and paste is tremendously irritating, and bumps into copyright issues. Plus eats storage. We all know you’re an excellent cut and paster. Use a link dude.
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So anyone that doesn’t have a place to live on land there has no place to quarantine as I read it.
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That is their prerogative on Block Island. They don't have a tourist industry nor want one. It isn't a matter of RI it's a privately owned enclave.
Life's a bitch, Not sure I would want to be in that income range but feel sure a get away is nice for those that are.
I hadn't been there for 60 years, or so, and hope it hasn't changed..
Block island is a tourist industry. They have approximately 10,000 people a day come over for the beaches and restaurants a day on the ferries alone. They are not doing this out of spite...... they want the business, they just don’t want the sickness. Their medical facilities are adequate at best and not handle real sick people and have extremely
Limited capacity.
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Block Islands Council loosened the Stay At Home orders on April 17th.

Note that 43% of the island is held under The Nature Conservancy land trust and local Block Island Conservancy.

FYI: Here is the text of section 9 of the town’s ordinance, which originally went into effect on March 23:

Anyone arriving on Block Island must immediately Self-Quarantine (as that term is hereinafter defined) for two weeks, and thereafter must Shelter-in-Place (as that term is hereinafter defined) and follow CDC and Rhode Island Department of Health guidelines. Nothing contained in this paragraph shall be construed so as to prevent a person who is under the Self-Quarantine or Shelter-in-Place requirements of this paragraph from leaving the island; provided, however, that a person under the SelfQuarantine requirements must proceed directly to the ferry or airport without making any stops.

All residents, full-time or seasonal, must Shelter-in-Place and follow CDC and Rhode Island Department of Health guidelines.

Only transient workers may commute to Block Island who are engaged in Essential Activities; provided, however, that all such transient workers are restricted as follows:

• workers must inform the Town Manager’s designee as posted on the Town’s website (in addition to such other posting places as the Town Manager may determine appropriate) prior to coming to the island;

• workers may not go to any location on the island other than to the job site where they will engage in an Essential Activity and back to the ferry and/or airport to leave the island;

• workers must wear face masks and have hand washing and/or hand sanitizer readily available to them;

• workers must maintain a daily log of personal contacts; and

• workers must maintain social distancing and the CDC and Rhode Island Department of Health Guidelines must be followed.

All persons on Block Island are encouraged to conduct Essential Activities by themselves, in order that minimal contact/exposure may be achieved.
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Block island is a tourist industry. They have approximately 10,000 people a day come over for the beaches and restaurants a day on the ferries alone. They are not doing this out of spite...... they want the business, they just don’t want the sickness. Their medical facilities are adequate at best and not handle real sick people and have extremely
Limited capacity.
I guess it has changed. I hate to see islands become commercialized. Here in SC I've watched the " Sea Islands " go one by one to the almighty dollar.
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I guess it has changed ...
I am a long time fan of BI (say 65 years or so) and it still has for me an aura of magic. No question.

However I would not be able to agree that "it has changed" in any sense because it's always been a tourist stop whether by ferry or yacht. BI natives are a special bunch and I am fortunate to know a few and count them as friends. They take the good with the bad, the winter with the summer, and the good visitors with the rest.

They do what they can with what they've got.
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The OP’s effort to make this into a 1% issue is silly. New Shoreham has made the regulations apply to everyone. He can self-quarantine for 14 days on his boat or his house ashore (if he had one). What part of “quarantine” doesn’t he understand.

And at this time of year, Block Island is not a 1% playground. Too cold. Even in summer, it’s no Nantucket. I looked it up. Median family income is $39k. 8% are below the poverty line. When these folks arrive on the ferry they have to quarantine too. Presumably many have just lost their jobs.

I wonder how they feel about a guy on his “yacht” who apparently doesn’t have to work — bellyaching?
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Just got this email from the Kittery Maine harbormaster. And people thought going to Block Island was difficult....


"Hello all,

This communication is to advise you all of changes made to our day to day operations of the Kittery waterfront due to the current Covid19 situation. As many of you are aware, Governor Mills executive order requires all who enter Maine to quarantine for 14 days. She also stated that as of May 1st certain outdoor activities and certain businesses can reopen. We fall under the marina category. That being said, we are allowed to open but what was not specifically addressed is out of state boaters who keep their boats in Maine. It was not clear about how this would affect our out of state customers, so I called several state agencies looking for further guidance. What I was told was that if a boater is from out of state and comes into Maine, they must quarantine for 14 days. There currently is no exception for recreational boaters who come into the state, take their boats out for a day and then return home. What this means to my out of state customers is that until the executive order is lifted, amended, or you have the ability to quarantine on your boat for 14 days, you may not access your boat from Kittery wharfs, piers or docks. I cannot say enough how bad I feel about this, but these are unprecedented events in most of our lifetimes. You may see out of state vehicles and boats at private marinas but as we are a government entity, I do not have the ability to violate the Governor’s order. I know many of you are going to be very upset about this news and will have many questions, some of which I may or may not be able to give an answer and some of which you may not be happy with and for that I am truly sorry. Please feel free to reach out to me with your concerns but please understand that I can’t change anything until the order has been dropped or amended.

Other changes made to our day to day operations are as follows;

Physical (Social) Distancing will be maintained except while with direct family members or members of the same household while at town waterfront facilities.

6 parking spots at Pepperrell Cove will be temporarily reserved for commercial fisheries use only. Commercial fishing has been deemed essential, and as most of you know these folks are self-employed and have a very limited season to make their income. They will be given a temporary permit which will be placed in the vehicle that is specifically used in the fishing fleets operations.

The West pier, AKA the “Frisbee Pier” or “commercial pier as well as the large dock at the end will be only used by commercial fishing vehicles and vessels. Only 2 commercial vessels will be allowed to tie up to the Frisbee float at any one time and shall use only the East and West sides of the float to tie up to. Only one fishing boat crew at a time can work from the dock and piers. The dinghy docks associated with the Frisbee Pier can still be used for recreational boat dinghies to tie up to.

The East pier or “Pepperrell Pier” and 6 Transient Slips that stem from it can only be rented or utilized by Maine resident boats until further notice. If you have an out of state registered or documented vessel, proper identification will be requested. The associated dinghy docks can still be utilized by recreational boaters for dinghy tie up with the exception of the area marked commercial fisheries use only.

Transient moorings can be rented by out of state vessels, but the occupants may not come ashore until the mandated 14-day quarantine has been completed.

All customers and visitors will be required to wear a mask while on or transiting all Kittery piers, gangways (ramps leading to dock systems) and docks as physical (social) distancing is difficult at best while on these limiting structures. Commercial fishing vessel crews are exempt from this requirement ONLY while on the Frisbee pier and float because of the below restrictions regarding its use.

There will be NO recreational fishing from any Kittery wharfs, piers or docks until further notice to limit congregating in these areas.

Maine resident vessels requesting hourly rental of the transient docks in order to go to lunch or dinner must immediately enter the restaurant or stay on their vessels until their table is available Vehicles using the parking lot to attend the restaurant will also be required to immediately enter the restaurant or stay in their vehicles until their table is ready. No congregating in the parking lot, piers and docks will be permitted. Payment for hourly and daily rental of the transient facility will be done online or by submitting payment in a drop box which will be located the facility and marked as such.

The public bathroom at Pepperrell Cove will be closed until further notice and there will not be a “porta potty” placed at the Traip Academy Launch Ramp.

There will be no loitering in the Pepperrell Cove or Traip launch parking lots and the picnic tables and benches will be removed or blocked off until further notice to prevent congregating.

Plexiglass will be hung from the Pepperrell Cove doorway to protect staff and customers and no customers will be allowed to enter.

I will update you all with any new information or if anything changes.

Once again, I am truly sorry having to make these changes even though the current circumstances and executive orders have called for them. I hope that things turn around so that we can all get back to some level of normalcy. I for one definitely need it.



Thanks again and I hope all of you and your loved ones are well.

Sincerely,

John Brosnihan

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Just got this email from the Kittery Maine harbormaster. And people thought going to Block Island was difficult....


"Hello all,

This communication is to advise you all of changes made to our day to day operations of the Kittery waterfront due to the current Covid19 situation. As many of you are aware, Governor Mills executive order requires all who enter Maine to quarantine for 14 days.

Sincerely,

John Brosnihan

Harbormaster"
Looks very standard as to normal protocols for Covid-19

Note that Maine's Stay At Home executive order has been extended to at least May 31st. So no surprise that out of staters must quarantine themselves. Stay At Home means what it says, very simple.

The social distancing requirements will not end anytime soon. The new norm as to your boat mate(s) are your housemate(s). No different on land or sea.
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This is where I grew up sailing. Probably the harbor I know best.

Note, you are permitted to anchor in the cove, wait 14 days, then you’re all clear. No language about needing to own real estate in Maine, needing to pay for a dock or having to leave the anchorage once your quarantine is up.

This is correctly applied quarantine requirements, just as I would expect from this area of the country. Quite a contrast to the Rhode Island application and absolutely friendly to transients anchoring.

Fair and equitable rules for all, except it’s regrettable the Maine/NH border is absolutely porous in this area so boats from NH are kept across the small river in Maine causing what the harbormaster is apologizing for.

The worst of it is for out of state day sailors and weekenders, which comprise a huge number of the boats on the moorings in Kittery. The majority even. It’s unfortunate for them because no one is used to there being any real sense of a border between Maine and NH.

These are fair and equitable rules from decent people.


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Just got this email from the Kittery Maine harbormaster. And people thought going to Block Island was difficult....


"Hello all,

This communication is to advise you all of changes made to our day to day operations of the Kittery waterfront due to the current Covid19 situation. As many of you are aware, Governor Mills executive order requires all who enter Maine to quarantine for 14 days. She also stated that as of May 1st certain outdoor activities and certain businesses can reopen. We fall under the marina category. That being said, we are allowed to open but what was not specifically addressed is out of state boaters who keep their boats in Maine. It was not clear about how this would affect our out of state customers, so I called several state agencies looking for further guidance. What I was told was that if a boater is from out of state and comes into Maine, they must quarantine for 14 days. There currently is no exception for recreational boaters who come into the state, take their boats out for a day and then return home. What this means to my out of state customers is that until the executive order is lifted, amended, or you have the ability to quarantine on your boat for 14 days, you may not access your boat from Kittery wharfs, piers or docks. I cannot say enough how bad I feel about this, but these are unprecedented events in most of our lifetimes. You may see out of state vehicles and boats at private marinas but as we are a government entity, I do not have the ability to violate the Governor’s order. I know many of you are going to be very upset about this news and will have many questions, some of which I may or may not be able to give an answer and some of which you may not be happy with and for that I am truly sorry. Please feel free to reach out to me with your concerns but please understand that I can’t change anything until the order has been dropped or amended.

Other changes made to our day to day operations are as follows;

Physical (Social) Distancing will be maintained except while with direct family members or members of the same household while at town waterfront facilities.

6 parking spots at Pepperrell Cove will be temporarily reserved for commercial fisheries use only. Commercial fishing has been deemed essential, and as most of you know these folks are self-employed and have a very limited season to make their income. They will be given a temporary permit which will be placed in the vehicle that is specifically used in the fishing fleets operations.

The West pier, AKA the “Frisbee Pier” or “commercial pier as well as the large dock at the end will be only used by commercial fishing vehicles and vessels. Only 2 commercial vessels will be allowed to tie up to the Frisbee float at any one time and shall use only the East and West sides of the float to tie up to. Only one fishing boat crew at a time can work from the dock and piers. The dinghy docks associated with the Frisbee Pier can still be used for recreational boat dinghies to tie up to.

The East pier or “Pepperrell Pier” and 6 Transient Slips that stem from it can only be rented or utilized by Maine resident boats until further notice. If you have an out of state registered or documented vessel, proper identification will be requested. The associated dinghy docks can still be utilized by recreational boaters for dinghy tie up with the exception of the area marked commercial fisheries use only.

Transient moorings can be rented by out of state vessels, but the occupants may not come ashore until the mandated 14-day quarantine has been completed.

All customers and visitors will be required to wear a mask while on or transiting all Kittery piers, gangways (ramps leading to dock systems) and docks as physical (social) distancing is difficult at best while on these limiting structures. Commercial fishing vessel crews are exempt from this requirement ONLY while on the Frisbee pier and float because of the below restrictions regarding its use.

There will be NO recreational fishing from any Kittery wharfs, piers or docks until further notice to limit congregating in these areas.

Maine resident vessels requesting hourly rental of the transient docks in order to go to lunch or dinner must immediately enter the restaurant or stay on their vessels until their table is available Vehicles using the parking lot to attend the restaurant will also be required to immediately enter the restaurant or stay in their vehicles until their table is ready. No congregating in the parking lot, piers and docks will be permitted. Payment for hourly and daily rental of the transient facility will be done online or by submitting payment in a drop box which will be located the facility and marked as such.

The public bathroom at Pepperrell Cove will be closed until further notice and there will not be a “porta potty” placed at the Traip Academy Launch Ramp.

There will be no loitering in the Pepperrell Cove or Traip launch parking lots and the picnic tables and benches will be removed or blocked off until further notice to prevent congregating.

Plexiglass will be hung from the Pepperrell Cove doorway to protect staff and customers and no customers will be allowed to enter.

I will update you all with any new information or if anything changes.

Once again, I am truly sorry having to make these changes even though the current circumstances and executive orders have called for them. I hope that things turn around so that we can all get back to some level of normalcy. I for one definitely need it.



Thanks again and I hope all of you and your loved ones are well.

Sincerely,

John Brosnihan

Harbormaster"
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