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07-10-2009, 13:00
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#1
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Registered User
Join Date: Oct 2009
Location: UK
Boat: Catana 431
Posts: 12
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Atlantic Crossing 2009
We are planning to leave Lanzarote, Canaries on 1-December. Crossing to Antigua.
We are a 43' Catamaran and would like to have someone to 'buddy' across with.
Anyone interested?
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07-10-2009, 14:07
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#2
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Registered User
Join Date: Apr 2009
Location: Malvernshire, on the sunny side of the hill.
Boat: 50' steel canal and river cruiser
Posts: 1,905
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Doesnt the ARC make the dash about that time of year?
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07-10-2009, 15:41
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#3
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Registered User
Join Date: Apr 2008
Location: Silver Creek, WA, US
Boat: searching
Posts: 214
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People who go to sea for pleasure..............
Is this a clandestine operation? Tell all, tell now,
we are all interested
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"When the world was flat as a pancake, Mona Lisa was happy as a clam" J. Prine
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07-10-2009, 17:02
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#4
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Registered User
Join Date: Aug 2009
Location: between the devil and the deep blue sea
Boat: a sailing boat
Posts: 20,412
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You will have buddies all the way - the ARC takes off a momo earlier and you will catch up with most of them.
Boats leaving later you can meet mostly Las Palmas and san Sebastian.
b.
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08-10-2009, 03:26
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#5
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Registered User
Join Date: Oct 2009
Location: UK
Boat: Catana 431
Posts: 12
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ARC leaves around 20th
The ARC leaves around 20-Nov and ends in St Lucia. We are not interested in racing, and we are going to make landfall in Antigua, so I've discounted the ARC for us.
Plan to leave Lanzarote on 30-Nov and be across before Christmas.
Nothing clandestine that I'm aware of. Just looking for some mates to be able to chat to and share weather/ safety/ navigational/ fishing information.
Thought we might set up a loose radio net either on HAM or marine frequency.
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08-10-2009, 04:03
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#6
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Registered User
Join Date: Nov 2005
Location: Ohio
Posts: 2,880
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Why not move up your departure date and shadow the ARC fleet?
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08-10-2009, 04:19
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#7
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Registered User
Join Date: Oct 2009
Location: UK
Boat: Catana 431
Posts: 12
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crew flights to Lanzarote already bought and paid for on 28-Nov
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08-10-2009, 04:42
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Registered User
Join Date: Apr 2009
Location: Malvernshire, on the sunny side of the hill.
Boat: 50' steel canal and river cruiser
Posts: 1,905
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Read this, it might be of help
Reflections 1
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10-10-2009, 07:29
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Registered User
Join Date: Oct 2009
Location: UK
Boat: Catana 431
Posts: 12
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Atlantic Routing
I wounder if anyone has come across a text or magazine that really helps with trans-Atlantic route planning.
Someone said to me that there are a number of normal routes West, but I can't find any reference that explains the proper use of rhumb lines, great circles etc. to prepare some possible Atlantic routes that will be the shortest possible.
Any ideas?
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10-10-2009, 07:44
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#10
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Long Range Cruiser
Join Date: Dec 2007
Location: Australian living on "Sea Life" currently in England.
Boat: Beneteau 393 "Sea Life"
Posts: 12,823
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Quote:
Originally Posted by cfpcfpcfp
Someone said to me that there are a number of normal routes West,
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Just one that I know of. Leave Canaries and head 272 deg for 2641 miles and drop anchor.
Its one of the great nav-less trips. Grab a long book (per day).
Chill, unwind and enjoy it
Mark
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10-10-2009, 08:07
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#11
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Registered User
Join Date: Oct 2009
Location: UK
Boat: Catana 431
Posts: 12
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Thats what I kind of thought. Someone said to me, "Go south till the butter melts and then turn right!"
"Very funny", I thought!
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10-10-2009, 11:11
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#12
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Registered User
Join Date: Aug 2009
Location: between the devil and the deep blue sea
Boat: a sailing boat
Posts: 20,412
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Quote:
Originally Posted by cfpcfpcfp
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I wounder if anyone has come across a text or magazine that really helps with trans-Atlantic route planning.
Someone said to me that there are a number of normal routes West, but I can't find any reference that explains the proper use of rhumb lines, great circles etc. to prepare some possible Atlantic routes that will be the shortest possible.
Any ideas?
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YM last year just before ARC had a feature on the subject.
There is no magic to an Atlantic crossing towards the West Indies - start when the wind is best and then follow the wind until you get there. Some variations possible depending on:
- how responsive your boat is,
- how much driving experience you / the crew have,
- how well you know what the preferred take off weather is,
- how well you understand the weather patterns / forecasts and how to use them.
This would take a long post to explain in detail but if you are comfortable to read long msgs you can contact me by a direct msg - I can introduce you to the magic.
But if you follow MarkJ advise you will get there anyway so why bother.
Cheers,
b.
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26-10-2009, 12:00
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#13
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Registered User
Join Date: Oct 2009
Location: Spain
Boat: Looking for a boat for myself and girlfriend going from the Canaries to anywhere
Posts: 1
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If any of your crew drop out at the last minute please get in touch, myself and girlfriend are looking for a boat, Im a yachtmaster and divemaster. Ive worked on a few boats over 50m and also lots of smaller sailing boats. I sailed from Gran Canaria via Cape Verde to Grenada in 2006, Great times, back for more!!!
If you or anyone else requires a cv, please just ask.
Good luck and maybe see in Antigua!!
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26-10-2009, 14:25
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#14
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Registered User
Join Date: May 2007
Location: Florida
Boat: Catalina 470
Posts: 2,573
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Downwind from Canaries to Antigua.....No worries...
cfpcfpcfp,
I couldn't agree more with barnakiel.....
He's right on the money!!!
In short, you sail with the wind that you have!!!
Quote:
Originally Posted by barnakiel
There is no magic to an Atlantic crossing towards the West Indies - start when the wind is best and then follow the wind until you get there. Some variations possible depending on:
- how responsive your boat is,
- how much driving experience you / the crew have,
- how well you know what the preferred take off weather is,
- how well you understand the weather patterns / forecasts and how to use them.
This would take a long post to explain in detail but if you are comfortable to read long msgs you can contact me by a direct msg - I can introduce you to the magic.
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As for your specific questions, he's also correct that it would be a long conversation here.....
But, in brief.....
You'll probably sail SW'erly until you hit the brunt of the trade winds....and then head Westerly (along the rhumb line) towards Antigua.....
There are actually many books, articles, guides, etc. written about this passage (and other ocean passages), which I'd advise you to read.....
You'll learn quite a bit......
However, it is true that you'll a lot more when you're "out there"...but that's for you to decide, whether you wish to be fully prepared or not....
Just my thoughts....
Fair winds...
John
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26-10-2009, 17:21
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#15
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Long Range Cruiser
Join Date: Dec 2007
Location: Australian living on "Sea Life" currently in England.
Boat: Beneteau 393 "Sea Life"
Posts: 12,823
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Quote:
Originally Posted by ka4wja
There are actually many books, articles, guides, etc. written about this passage (and other ocean passages),
John
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Theres a lot of good reading, however, and with the proviso of not taking off under prepared, you could do well NOT to read them!
Why?
Because anyone can take Jimmy Cornells book and follow his route. But thats HIS route. We like planning our own route. I don't think it makes us faster or better, but its our unique route.
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