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18-04-2011, 15:49
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Registered User
Join Date: Mar 2010
Location: Sydney Australia
Boat: Lavezzi 40, Pourpre
Posts: 962
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$1000 Extra to Avoid the Wait for Panama Canal
Hi all,
With my boat now at Shelter Bay with a two week wait to go through the Panama Canal, which I believe is only a bit longer than normal.
I've been told if we pay an extra $1000 for a pilot the boat can go through straight away.
I've heard of paying the infamous taxi driver, but it now seems the Canal Authority is doing the same.
I can understand there being an extra charge for this service but $1000 sounds like a lot.
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18-04-2011, 16:01
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Registered User
Join Date: Aug 2007
Location: Clear Lake Marine Services - Seabrook, Texas
Boat: Gulfstar, Mark II Ketch, 43'
Posts: 2,359
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Re: $1000 extra to avoid the wait for Panama Canal
try here, Noonsite: Panama then try Panama Canal - Canal de Panamá - www.PanCanal.com.
By what I've read, pilots are now mandatory.
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18-04-2011, 16:12
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Registered User
Join Date: May 2009
Location: Vancouver, Wash.
Boat: no longer on my Cabo Rico 38 Sanderling
Posts: 1,810
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Re: $1000 extra to avoid the wait for Panama Canal
I'm curious as to who told you this as it sounds like a scam to me. Don't pay anyone money for your transit except the ACP office! The exception is for Lines and such, talk to the manager at the marina.
Unless things have changed, you're assigned an advisior for your transit, a person who is in training to be a pilot.
Scheduled times for transit are based on the traffic through the canal, your combatablity with that traffic, and if you'll need to spend a night within the canal.
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18-04-2011, 16:12
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always in motion is the future

Join Date: Feb 2009
Location: in paradise
Boat: Sundeer 64
Posts: 17,411
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Re: $1000 extra to avoid the wait for Panama Canal
nah.. pilots are for ships and very large yachts. We normally get an advisor and from what I understand they are on strike or something so that yacht transits are now delayed. You can hire a pilot instead for anywhere between $1k-$3k and avoid the wait.. but why would you?
If this excites somebody; my recommendation is to relax, visit fort San Lorenzo or Gamboa or other nice tourist spots and relax. There will be situations requiring much more patience than this :-)
ciao!
Nick (now in the Shelter Bay Marina hotel.. Jedi on the hard :s )
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18-04-2011, 16:36
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Registered User
Join Date: Mar 2010
Location: Sydney Australia
Boat: Lavezzi 40, Pourpre
Posts: 962
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Re: $1000 extra to avoid the wait for Panama Canal
Thanks Nick, that explains a lot.
I'm not with the boat so I'm getting secondhand info.
I don't think it's a scam just unfourtunate timing, I'll tell them to chill out and maybe change the rudder bearing whilst they wait.
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18-04-2011, 18:47
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Join Date: Mar 2010
Location: Sydney Australia
Boat: Lavezzi 40, Pourpre
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Re: $1000 extra to avoid the wait for Panama Canal
Hmm, did a google search and couldn't find any info on recent industrial action.
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18-04-2011, 19:23
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Moderator... short for Cat Wrangler

Join Date: Jul 2009
Location: San Francisco
Boat: Cal 28 Flush Deck
Posts: 5,559
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Re: $1000 extra to avoid the wait for Panama Canal
Hi, If you do wind up needing a pilot you might contact AJ Dutari. He's an old friend and a senior pilot and could prolly answer questions/help.
Tell him Tiffany's sister sent ya ; -)
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21-04-2011, 15:06
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Join Date: Apr 2011
Posts: 26
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Re: $1000 Extra to Avoid the Wait for Panama Canal
i'm at balboa and yes, it's two weeks now. apparently the canal authority doesn't think too much of yachties and in the foreseeable future it could be four weeks. the reason i was told is that the canal authority isn't training any new advisors, so we suffer the backlog. if you want to go sooner hire a pilot for $3k. we're stuck with it. i used an agent and this is what he told me and there was even a delay from my anticipated time originally quoted. why? because there are not enough advisors...
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21-04-2011, 16:24
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Registered User
Join Date: Mar 2010
Location: Sydney Australia
Boat: Lavezzi 40, Pourpre
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Re: $1000 Extra to Avoid the Wait for Panama Canal
OK, looks like the 1st of May it is!
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21-04-2011, 16:33
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Moderator Emeritus
Join Date: Mar 2003
Location: Hayes, VA
Boat: Gozzard 36
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Re: $1000 Extra to Avoid the Wait for Panama Canal
Quote:
There will be situations requiring much more patience than this :-)
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Were we to start important quotes at CF this would make the top 10. Cruising requires far more paiteince than ytou get with the standard equipment.
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21-04-2011, 22:11
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Join Date: Mar 2010
Location: Sydney Australia
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Re: $1000 Extra to Avoid the Wait for Panama Canal
Oh yes I'm sure you are right, but I also believe there is a difference between patience and procrastination.
Many indulge in the latter claiming it to be the former.
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21-04-2011, 22:24
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Registered User
Join Date: Oct 2010
Location: VA, boat: Deale, MD
Boat: 1981 Nor'sea 27
Posts: 1,414
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Re: $1000 Extra to Avoid the Wait for Panama Canal
Quote:
Originally Posted by Dragon Lady
I also believe there is a difference between patience and procrastination.
Many indulge in the latter claiming it to be the former.
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Looks like a good quote for your signature. I'd enjoy the wait and relax.
Seriously, Who would actually complain about being stuck in Panama?
(not saying anyone here is, just saying it in general)
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22-04-2011, 16:27
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Registered User
Join Date: Mar 2010
Location: Sydney Australia
Boat: Lavezzi 40, Pourpre
Posts: 962
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Re: $1000 Extra to Avoid the Wait for Panama Canal
I had a delivery skipper abandon me because he didn't want to spend three weeks in the heat of Panama, as for me I'm stuck in cold wet Sydney Australia.
So no problem for me it actually suits me to have the boat arrive a little later.
The only complaint I had was the $1000 charge to go straight through without waiting.
I'm not sure how my current skipper feels about it.
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22-04-2011, 16:45
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Moderator Emeritus

Join Date: Jul 2010
Location: Key West & Sarasota
Boat: Cal 28 "Happy Days"
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Re: $1000 Extra to Avoid the Wait for Panama Canal
Quote:
Originally Posted by Dragon Lady
I had a delivery skipper abandon me because he didn't want to spend three weeks in the heat of Panama, as for me I'm stuck in cold wet Sydney Australia.
So no problem for me it actually suits me to have the boat arrive a little later.
The only complaint I had was the $1000 charge to go straight through without waiting.
I'm not sure how my current skipper feels about it.
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Dunno what you are paying the delivery captain, but when I was doing such things, paying MY day rate for 3 weeks to cool my heels would make the $1K look like a TIP!
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22-04-2011, 17:04
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Registered User
Join Date: Mar 2010
Location: Sydney Australia
Boat: Lavezzi 40, Pourpre
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Re: $1000 Extra to Avoid the Wait for Panama Canal
Fortunately my current crew aren't rockstars and the waiting time is built into the contract.
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