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13-08-2021, 09:33
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Registered User
Join Date: Nov 2019
Location: Edmonton, AB
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What qualifies as a “vaccine certificate”?
We are about to leave to pick up our boat in France!
Some EU/Schengen countries ask for “proof” of vaccination,while others reference a “certificate”.
I assumed the papers provided to us when we were vaccinated would be sufficient to prove our status. I worry I am wrong.
Our papers are from Canada, and we are initially entering France.
Our province was a bit of a mess in the vaccine rollout, and it seems that every different vaccine location produced different-looking records, so it looks a bit messy, and I’m worried it won’t fit the criteria of “certificate”
Does anyone have any information about what kind of records they’ve seen accepted?
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13-08-2021, 09:40
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Join Date: Sep 2011
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Re: What qualifies as a “vaccine certificate”?
In the provinces I am aware of (Ontario & Alberta) you can access your vaccination certificates online. They are available in a standard government form.
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13-08-2021, 09:41
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Join Date: May 2015
Location: Sailing Lake Ontario
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Re: What qualifies as a “vaccine certificate”?
The French gov't seems pretty vague about it: https://www.diplomatie.gouv.fr/en/co...ce/#sommaire_1
Is there a consulate in Edmonton that you could ask? These things change so often that someone else's experience might not apply to you (this week, from your location).
Too bad your premier doesn't believe in vaccine passports! (Sorry, couldn't resist.)
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13-08-2021, 09:56
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Re: What qualifies as a “vaccine certificate”?
I Mexico the going rate for a Fake C19 Negative test is $500pesos.
A Faked Vaccine Passport is $1500pesos.
So people can continue to think a piece of paper will protect them from the CCP Virus...but good luck with that. It's about Control and Power...not about the Virus.
Vaccinated people have nothing to fear from folks that used their Freedom to not get a vaccine. Some people make poor health choice every day, they are the ones with higher death rates so they will have to live (or die) with their choices. The rest of us who, choose freely to get a CCP Vaccine, should be able to go about living our lives as generations have through out countless plagues in human history.
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13-08-2021, 10:15
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Re: What qualifies as a “vaccine certificate”?
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Originally Posted by AnglaisInHull
Too bad your premier doesn't believe in vaccine passports! (Sorry, couldn't resist.)
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Oh, I know. JK is an unbelievable burden on Albertans. What about those of us who *want* passports?
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13-08-2021, 13:41
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Re: What qualifies as a “vaccine certificate”?
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Originally Posted by SVNagambie
Oh, I know. JK is an unbelievable burden on Albertans. What about those of us who *want* passports? 
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As an Alberta, I gotta agree.
In terms of vaccine passports, we got vaccinated in florida on our way north from bahamas. Which means we have the hand written cdc card. If that is the minimum standards I dont see how a written statement from your family doctor wouldn't suffice. It might be worth asking at least.
Good luck
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13-08-2021, 13:56
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Re: What qualifies as a “vaccine certificate”?
A positive CCP Virus test should also work, since people that have had the CCP Virus and recovered have a stronger Immunity than those with a vaccine.
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13-08-2021, 13:59
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Join Date: Sep 2011
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Re: What qualifies as a “vaccine certificate”?
Again, you can access official records in Alberta through the online tool: Myhealthrecords. And I see where you can even upload vaccination records from another jurisdiction Mac:
https://myhealth.alberta.ca/myhealthrecords
In Ontario you can access your covid-19 vaccinations records here:
https://covid19.ontariohealth.ca/
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13-08-2021, 14:08
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Re: What qualifies as a “vaccine certificate”?
Check with the French Embassy.. PCR tests less than 72hrs old may be required
Quote: Currently, travellers are only allowed to enter from EU nations and a limited number of approved third countries. Passengers over the age of 11 who are allowed to enter must submit a negative RT-PCR test carried out no more than 72 hours before departure. Passengers may also be subject to a virological RT-PCR test on arrival in France and a 7 day quarantine.
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13-08-2021, 14:09
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#10
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Re: What qualifies as a “vaccine certificate”?
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Originally Posted by Mike OReilly
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Yeah, we’ve printed the MyHealth records out out as well, but they are not available for kids, and that’s 2 out of the 4 of us.
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13-08-2021, 14:19
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Re: What qualifies as a “vaccine certificate”?
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Originally Posted by SV THIRD DAY
A positive CCP Virus test should also work, since people that have had the CCP Virus and recovered have a stronger Immunity than those with a vaccine.
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That is patently false according to every medical journal published in the US and elsewhere.q
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13-08-2021, 14:21
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Re: What qualifies as a “vaccine certificate”?
SVNagambie,
US citizens, Jim and I have dealt with French authorities a number of times, and found them to be helpful and reasonable. Often they prefer to use their English over our poor French. As Boatman 61 said, you may have hoops to jump through on arrival, don't worry about it. It will work out; it may be an adventure. If you have to quarantine, get a room with opening windows. I feel pretty certain that they will accept paper records, or online. Mostly, they can tell within a minute if you're lying, and when they decide you're honest, they will process you fairly.
Ann
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14-08-2021, 07:57
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Re: What qualifies as a “vaccine certificate”?
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Originally Posted by S/V Illusion
That is patently false according to every medical journal published in the US and elsewhere.q
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Both the Mayo Clinic and Harvard Medical have published papers that conclude that having had, and recovered from, COVID-19 provides better protection, at least in the short term, than any of the available vaccines. At this point how long that protection lasts is a matter of some debate. The general consensus seems to be that it lasts at least 6 months, and much of the evidence points to it lasting for many years.
Johns Hopkins published a paper that presented opposing views from several different researchers. Some concluded that natural immunity was better, while others concluded that vaccination was better.
In any case, to be blunt, your statement above is just completely wrong.
That does not mean, however, that a person who has recovered from it cannot benefit from getting vaccinated. Most of the research that has been done indicates that being vaccinated provides even more protection, on top of the natural immunity. Though most of the advice is that you should wait 2-3 months after recovery to get vaccinated.
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14-08-2021, 08:53
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Re: What qualifies as a “vaccine certificate”?
Please,this is NOT a vaccination forum,
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14-08-2021, 08:56
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Re: What qualifies as a “vaccine certificate”?
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Originally Posted by denverd0n
Both the Mayo Clinic and Harvard Medical have published papers that conclude that having had, and recovered from, COVID-19 provides better protection, at least in the short term, than any of the available vaccines. At this point how long that protection lasts is a matter of some debate. The general consensus seems to be that it lasts at least 6 months, and much of the evidence points to it lasting for many years.
Johns Hopkins published a paper that presented opposing views from several different researchers. Some concluded that natural immunity was better, while others concluded that vaccination was better.
In any case, to be blunt, your statement above is just completely wrong.
That does not mean, however, that a person who has recovered from it cannot benefit from getting vaccinated. Most of the research that has been done indicates that being vaccinated provides even more protection, on top of the natural immunity. Though most of the advice is that you should wait 2-3 months after recovery to get vaccinated.
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His stament is not completely wrong. It's not even a little wrong. https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/...ed/5535920001/
Regardless it's not up to us to make the rules. If the rules require proof of vaccination then that is what you have to provide.
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