What qualifies as a “vaccine certificate”?

[svfinlandia]

Originally Posted by denverd0n

Both the Mayo Clinic and Harvard Medical have published papers that conclude that having had, and recovered from, COVID-19 provides better protection, at least in the short term, than any of the available vaccines. At this point how long that protection lasts is a matter of some debate. The general consensus seems to be that it lasts at least 6 months, and much of the evidence points to it lasting for many years.

Johns Hopkins published a paper that presented opposing views from several different researchers. Some concluded that natural immunity was better, while others concluded that vaccination was better.

In any case, to be blunt, your statement above is just completely wrong.

That does not mean, however, that a person who has recovered from it cannot benefit from getting vaccinated. Most of the research that has been done indicates that being vaccinated provides even more protection, on top of the natural immunity. Though most of the advice is that you should wait 2-3 months after recovery to get vaccinated.

+1
I think it is an “Illusion“ to think that he has read every medical journal out there.

Al, SV Finlandia

[davidsailtaylor]

I'm sailing in France and was vaccinated in Northern Ireland. The French app is called Touscovid, easily downloaded. Get onto the French Diplomatique web site and they have a section for visitors from Canada. There is an online form to fill in not difficult but persevere and get paper copies, the french love paper!

[kendalk]

You might want to look at the following website:

https://ca.ambafrance.org/SanitaryPa...isiting-France

I think this is what you want

[wingssail]

Originally Posted by denverd0n

Both the Mayo Clinic and Harvard Medical have published papers that conclude that having had, and recovered from, COVID-19 provides better protection, at least in the short term, than any of the available vaccines.

Please provide links to these papers.

Neither of the most recent papers I was able to find from Mayo or Harvard say that.

https://newsnetwork.mayoclinic.org/d...9-vaccination/

https://hms.harvard.edu/news/immune-...after-covid-19
In fact they say the opposite.

It would be saddening, with all the talk recently about spread of misinformation, if people still feel free to make unverified assertions which then may be repeated and spread.

[S/V Illusion]

Originally Posted by denverd0n

Both the Mayo Clinic and Harvard Medical have published papers that conclude that having had, and recovered from, COVID-19 provides better protection, at least in the short term, than any of the available vaccines.

Suffice it to say you made a broad generality which, like all generalities, is always wrong. Antigen levels vary proportionately with viral load and many other factors which affect antibody levels and duration.



this isn't the place to discuss it and certainly not the place to push false information

[thinwater]

Originally Posted by SV THIRD DAY

I Mexico the going rate for a Fake C19 Negative test is $500pesos.
A Faked Vaccine Passport is $1500pesos.

So people can continue to think a piece of paper will protect them from the CCP Virus...but good luck with that. It's about Control and Power...not about the Virus.

Vaccinated people have nothing to fear from folks that used their Freedom to not get a vaccine. Some people make poor health choice every day, they are the ones with higher death rates so they will have to live (or die) with their choices. The rest of us who, choose freely to get a CCP Vaccine, should be able to go about living our lives as generations have through out countless plagues in human history.

Off topic, any way you slice it. It was a question about paperwork.

[pcmm]

Originally Posted by SV THIRD DAY

A positive CCP Virus test should also work, since people that have had the CCP Virus and recovered have a stronger Immunity than those with a vaccine.

You’ve got that backwards!

[valhalla360]

Originally Posted by SVNagambie

Yeah, we’ve printed the MyHealth records out out as well, but they are not available for kids, and that’s 2 out of the 4 of us.

Since kids can't get the vaccine, they will likely need a recent test anyway.

Generally, take the most official looking piece of paper they provided. Preferably with signature and official stamp.

Can people fake it? Sure but reality is most won't. And why you would spend $80 on an easily faked vaccine card is silly.

[Tom and Maje]

Get a yellow vaccination book and take it to a local doctor. He can enter the vaccinations and stamp it. He might also be able to give you a code for the app. That’s what we did in Germany.

[goboatingnow]

Originally Posted by Tom and Maje

Get a yellow vaccination book and take it to a local doctor. He can enter the vaccinations and stamp it. He might also be able to give you a code for the app. That’s what we did in Germany.

In the EU. Thdd Ed next wag is the EU COVID pass. This is a QR bar code. I have it in my Apple wallet.

[blubaju]

2x vaccinated in EU (Austria) we received two stickers in our yellow WHO passport, the electronic EU vaccination certificate (a QR-code) and a printout. Might be a good idea to carry both, misuse of another persons certificate or a fake one is heavily fined.

Fake ones but valid QR, for about 150€ here, vaccination is free, certificate is free, don't understand those people.

QR code and your ID supposed to be online checked together, rarely correctly done :-(

Your problem you have to inquire, how to get your certificate into Europe's databases. Assume every doctor, for a small fee, should do so. But for meantime or temporary visit your WHO stickers should help.

BTW in Germany they issue the yellow WHO passport folded in credit-card size, multilingual English+German+French
https://schury.de/produkt-kategorie/...is-kleinmenge/

[goboatingnow]

Originally Posted by goboatingnow

In the EU. Thdd Ed next wag is the EU COVID pass. This is a QR bar code. I have it in my Apple wallet.

Well that looks like a vaccine side effect.

[bil56]

Everything is here !

https://ca.ambafrance.org/COVID-19-M...avel-to-France

[nortonscove]

It's just like the other certificate you need to travel. People losing their minds over this must remember we've been doing it for years. I'm required to have numerous vaccines to travel abroad and this is just one more. Nothing new here other than the abject politicization of the subject and some crazy ideals.

[valhalla360]

Originally Posted by nortonscove

It's just like the other certificate you need to travel. People losing their minds over this must remember we've been doing it for years. I'm required to have numerous vaccines to travel abroad and this is just one more. Nothing new here other than the abject politicization of the subject and some crazy ideals.

It is different. In the past, even countries that mandated vaccines often never checked them and certainly weren't worried about vetting the documentation for fakes.

In the long run, covid vaccines will move toward that as things settle down but right now officials are certainly checking and there is inconsistency in the documentation provided. In the USA, most receive a small white card as opposed to the traditional yellow vaccine card. Some countries are implementing electronic certifications.