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Old 10-05-2021, 12:02   #31
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I should add..
Any VAT paid can be reclaimed if you are a non EU citizen and are departing EU waters.
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Old 10-05-2021, 12:36   #32
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And my point is that all this mumble jumble you cut and paste has little value absent the experience or expertise of actually knowing how these regulatory mandates actually apply in real life situations.

Had I taken your comments regarding the calculation of VAT seriously when you last made them on this board, I would not now have a windvane for fear of the excessive cost of importation.

There's more to real knowledge than google and paste.
There is knowledge based on having to arrange for decades of international transport of goods, imports and exports of all types, metals, ores, electrical power generation, consumer products and to negotiate the INCOTERMs and pricings derived by such INCOTERMs.

If you don't know what one's obligations are as to INCOTERMs then one has no business in dealing with trade. Your one time anecdotal purchase of an inexpensive windvane does not accurately assess the valuations and costs involved, nor of the specific laws of the EU or of the UK.

The landed value including the many supplements is what custom's duty and VAT are based on. And when such duties and privilege taxations are significant then the entirety of the profitability of a transaction hinge on them, by way of example, the 25% custom's duty for importing a boat of USA origin, the 23% VAT on the landed value + the 25% customs duty. The tariff and the VAT would add 53+% to the import cost of a USA boat and its accoutrements to the EU. Not chump change. Not many USA sourced new or used boats headed to the European marketplace to sale and I suspect many that that are under temporary admission status will be returned to the USA instead of sold in the EU after an American has completed their tourist sojourns in the EU.

[Further reason to enjoy the no Sales or Use taxation on goods or services in Montana, things cost a lot less when there is no Federal or State transaction taxations]

We have sophisticated software applications with up to date rates used by our purchasing and our sales personnel so as to provide quotations and negotiate purchase orders. If one gets one step wrong in the INCOTERMs the entire deal can be a fiasco. One has to know the Harmonized System Code for each of the goods and services to discern the costs that will be incurred.

And insurance coverage and costs is very much specific to the INCOTERMs one negotiates both with the insurance company but also with each vendor / customer.
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Re: Portugal: Temporary Import/VAT and COVID

Hello Montanan
I had a chance to read some of your answers and I found
It very interesting.
How do I pm you in private?? I have a similar question about VAT that I don't find the answer anywhere despite I've tried with maritime
Agents too.
I always have a different answer
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Hi Wolfie,

I resemble that remark.

Here in The Last Best Place, Montaña we don't have Sales or Use taxation, nor VAT but when we export from 406 Country we incur such so one get's to learn the ways of various countries and States, all part of doing business.

A boat is just a good that is imported and exported every time it enters or departs a country, not really anything unique about it.

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Hello Montanan
I had a chance to read some of your answers and I found
It very interesting.
How do I pm you in private?? I have a similar question about VAT that I don't find the answer anywhere despite I've tried with maritime
Agents too.
I always have a different answer
Thanks
Sailormaxxi, I sent you a Private Message to which you can reply back.

All the best,

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I should add..

Any VAT paid can be reclaimed if you are a non EU citizen and are departing EU waters.


Not on boat parts or stores not included in the original boat sale.
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Re: Portugal: Temporary Import/VAT and COVID

Ken, on a different topic, and I apologize, but I have a friend headed to Lisbon, and looking to store his boat at a yard on the hard. Is that what you did, and if so, can you recommend a yard? Thank you!
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Ken, on a different topic, and I apologize, but I have a friend headed to Lisbon, and looking to store his boat at a yard on the hard. Is that what you did, and if so, can you recommend a yard? Thank you!
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You can google Sopromar Marina, they be facilities all over Portugal and there is one in Lisbon, price are not cheap but quality is very good.
I have my boat on the hard stand with them.
Give them a call and check for availability
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You can google Sopromar Marina it's easy to find, they have facilities all over Portugal and there is one in Lisbon, price are not cheap but quality is very good and staff is helpful..

I have my boat on the hard stand with them.
Give them a call and check for availability .

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