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Old 08-08-2022, 15:32   #1
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license for sailing

Hi, first Im from Brasil, but i have a Luxemburg citizenship, and i live in UK, Im are planning buy a sailboat at France or Italy in the future, so what type of license or document i need to do to begin sailing in this places, thanks
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Welcome to the forum.


As you are living in the UK, and plan on purchasing a boat in France or Italy and sailing in those waters to start, the UK issued ICC (International Certificate of Competence) is probably the best way to go. It can be attained through the RYA. Here's a link for more info on the ICC and other boating abroad topics:


https://www.rya.org.uk/knowledge/abroad/icc


You don't say whether you already have experience, or even what type of boat you plan to buy... so hard to give any more advice, but be aware that there are different requirements for the ICC depending on Sail or Power, including the size, and whether you plan to sail Inland Waters.



If you have sufficient and documented experience, and can provide evidence, you can challenge the ICC exam. There is a fee.



If you have no experience then probably the easiest way to get some would be to take a course such as the full RYA Day Skipper course. This includes both classroom and water based instruction and at the end you (assuming you pass) you will receive an RYA certificate as well as automatically be eligible to apply for the ICC for free, and the instructor/school should help you with all the relevant paperwork.



If you maintain your RYA membership then you will benefit from free renewals of your ICC every 5 years.


Good luck!
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Welcome to the forum.


As you are living in the UK, and plan on purchasing a boat in France or Italy and sailing in those waters to start, the UK issued ICC (International Certificate of Competence) is probably the best way to go. It can be attained through the RYA. Here's a link for more info on the ICC and other boating abroad topics:


https://www.rya.org.uk/knowledge/abroad/icc


You don't say whether you already have experience, or even what type of boat you plan to buy... so hard to give any more advice, but be aware that there are different requirements for the ICC depending on Sail or Power, including the size, and whether you plan to sail Inland Waters.



If you have sufficient and documented experience, and can provide evidence, you can challenge the ICC exam. There is a fee.



If you have no experience then probably the easiest way to get some would be to take a course such as the full RYA Day Skipper course. This includes both classroom and water based instruction and at the end you (assuming you pass) you will receive an RYA certificate as well as automatically be eligible to apply for the ICC for free, and the instructor/school should help you with all the relevant paperwork.



If you maintain your RYA membership then you will benefit from free renewals of your ICC every 5 years.


Good luck!
I do not have any experience, i want buy something in 2 or 3 years and until there get some experience, thank you very much im gona take a look.
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Re: license for sailing

No problem.


If you have no experience on the water then you will need to acquire some, and document it, before you can take the Day Skipper course (or apply for an ICC). You are expected to know how to sail before taking the course because you will be both behind the wheel, and acting as crew for your classmates, while you learn techniques that rely on having at least some competency on a keelboat. So if you have no idea what the basic points of sail are, how to sail them, how to trim a sail, handle a tiller or wheel etc. then you'll need to get that experience. Dinghies are a fine place to start and you'll learn all that stuff quickly, and probably have fun too.



Local sailing clubs and racing programs may be a good place to look for keelboat experience. The RYA also has a beginner 'Competent Crew' course, and it may help open some doors if you are looking to gain experience as crew.



If power boating is your aim, then I don't know what to suggest. The RYA does have power boating courses but I have no experience with them so I can't say how useful they would be, or what minimum experience you need to take them.



Give them a call. They are a great organization and will help you find what you're looking for, even if you have never set foot in a boat before.
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Nekton73 Thank you again
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If you register the boat in the UK you won't need any license, qualifications or mandatory equipment. You could legally set of to cross the Atlantic in a bath tub with nothing more than a bottle of champagne.
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If you register the boat in the UK you won't need any license, qualifications or mandatory equipment. You could legally set of to cross the Atlantic in a bath tub with nothing more than a bottle of champagne.
Interesting, thanks
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no license for a sailboat in France (<24m), but one for motorboat with >6hp
but the legislation is that of the country of origin
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i was looking for italy too

The boating licence is obligatory to:
pilot all boats and yachts, when sailing beyond 6 nautical miles from the coast
pilot all craft (motorboats and sail yachts) with a motor over 40.8 HP

from https://www.angloinfo.com/how-to/ita...er%2040.8%20HP
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no license for a sailboat in France (&lt;24m), but one for motorboat with &gt;6hp
but the legislation is that of the country of origin

What about a sailboat with a motor &gt;6hp?
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in France,
there is a calculation formula (a bit complicated) that says when a boat is a sailboat or becomes a motor boat
gosso modo, engine (hp) less than 1/2 of the sail area (sq. meters)

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Re: license for sailing

In France the license requirement for power boats used to depend on the requirements of your home country.

I once had a Norvegien boss in France who was stopped by the maritime police when driving a fast powerboat and had no license, turned out he needed none because in Norway you did not need a license back then.
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