Knife Attack in Las Palmas / Cannary Islands

[barnakiel]

Now that another ARC is coming I think it is important to mention that due to the new immigration situation in Europe (read the EU disregarding tragic and dangerous developments in places like Lampedusa, Melilla or CANARY ISLANDS) places that formerly had been considered very safe and trouble-less are no longer so.


https://www.laprovincia.es/sucesos/2...-55640864.html


" ... La Policía Nacional se ha hecho cargo de la búsqueda de los asaltantes y trata de localizar a dos jóvenes de origen magrebí...."


" ... El chico dijo que no tenía nada para darles y entonces fue agredido a cuchillo. Los asaltantes le hicieron varios cortes en la parte anterior y trasera del cuello. Según un testigo, "fue impactante, tenía el cuello totalmente seccionado, aunque no con profundidad. Se le veía la traquea y la aorta. Por pocos milímetros no falleció"...."


It is not an isolated incident and I have witnessed many minor, but potentially very dangerous, cases of disrespect for our local culture and style of life by same group of people.


https://es.statista.com/estadisticas...-via-maritima/


Do not expect to read about this in your mainstream newspaper that that is too busy discussing COVID, Bitcoin and Olympics played at empty stadiums.


Keep on dreaming.


barnakiel

[sailingabe41ds]

Here is a little secret...I lived in Spain and travelled most of France, Greece, and Italy. They have always been a high crime area ! Americans think it is low crime and are often victims of petty theft . If you try to report it to the authorities they almost laugh at you...they ask you if you know who took your money or camera and it is never documented makimg them look like Europe is crime free. Now with immigrants from the midfleeast there are even warnings of some areas as "no go zones". Even some areas in Sweden has become dangerous ..Stockholm at one point was the rape capital of Europe as the authories were discourage not to do anything for fear as being labeled as a racist country and upsaeting the new immigrants. The US has the gun crimes...but you are living in LaLa land if you think Europe and its territories are crime fee.
BTW my gradparents were Spaniards and we also had relatives in the Canary Islands.

[barnakiel]

Canary Islands have never been a high crime area. Quite the opposite.


And having young people of known provenience trying to cut people's throats in the broad daylight in a public park where people do their jogging and walk with their children IS A COMPLETELY NEW KIND OF GAME.


Here, we are witnessing a change. And one disregarded by the authorities.


But it should not be disregarded by sailing people who will soon crowd Las Palmas to get ready for their rallies and otherwise crossings.


Better beware than sorry.


barnakiel

[Allied39]

oh boy....did someone say covid?

[JPA Cate]

I'm sort of questioning the reporting. For me, there is sort of a disconnect between the report that one could see the victim's artery and esophagus because of the cuts on his neck, and the doctor says the injuries were "minor," rat her than "able to have been mended satisfactorily...[stitched or glued up]."

It certainly reads scarily, and cruiser, beware!

Ann

[Stewie12]

There are literally thousands of North African people who have crossed to the Canaries by boats in the hope of making a new life in Spain. Crime has increased and the police have said that they are looking for two young Magrebi. So it seems like illegal immigrants were the perpetrators..

[boatman61]

Knife attacks by immigrants have become common in Europe and the UK.. usually young men of a certain religious belief.
London has become very bad for this.. two sisters murdered walking through a park, the perp then claimed a voice told him it was needed so he could win the Lottery.. so labelled mentally unstable instead of Islamist.
France, woman had throat slashed in a Police station, Germany, Wuerzburg a man armed with a long knife killed three people and wounded at least five others.. Spain: Police in Barcelona shoot knife attacker The incident took place just after Barcelona had marked the first anniversary of the terrorist attack in Las Ramblas boulevard.
Its a rising problem..

[DavidMRea]

Fightening though these stories are, the perception of crime is routinely higher than the actual crime rates. In Europe, crime rates have been falling for years (and here in the UK).

https://ec.europa.eu/eurostat/statis...ime_statistics

[moseriw]

TRANSLATION

Originally Posted by barnakiel

" ... La Policía Nacional se ha hecho cargo de la búsqueda de los asaltantes y trata de localizar a dos jóvenes de origen magrebí...."


The National Police has taken over the search for the assailants and is trying to locate two young people of Maghreb origin

" ... El chico dijo que no tenía nada para darles y entonces fue agredido a cuchillo. Los asaltantes le hicieron varios cortes en la parte anterior y trasera del cuello. Según un testigo, "fue impactante, tenía el cuello totalmente seccionado, aunque no con profundidad. Se le veía la traquea y la aorta. Por pocos milímetros no falleció"...."

The boy said he had nothing to give them and was then attacked with a knife. The assailants made several cuts to the front and back of his neck. According to a witness, "it was shocking, his neck was completely severed, although not deeply. You could see his trachea and aorta. He did not die by a few millimeters" ....

barnakiel

[moseriw]

Originally Posted by DavidMRea

Fightening though these stories are, the perception of crime is routinely higher than the actual crime rates. In Europe, crime rates have been falling for years (and here in the UK).

https://ec.europa.eu/eurostat/statis...ime_statistics

Which is, by all means, a blind lie. I live in Austria and get the Austrian an German news. We should offend a price to a criminal who is a true Austrian or German.

Most of them are from Nigeria, Somalia, Syria, Afganistan, Romania, Bulgaria, Serbia and not at least Turkey. Some of Poland and Czech too but rarely Austrians and Germans.

OK fact: in Great Britain do not live Brits any more but mostly asian an heck the hell everyone you can imagine out of former colonies.

And this is a situation that is causes by our polititians an the complete absence of their power of judement.

So PLEASE do not vote and these corrupt criminals have to give up.

[conchaway]

Lo siento, pero no entiendo espanol.

[Group9]

Originally Posted by DavidMRea

Fightening though these stories are, the perception of crime is routinely higher than the actual crime rates. In Europe, crime rates have been falling for years (and here in the UK).

https://ec.europa.eu/eurostat/statis...ime_statistics

We learned many years ago in the US that governments will under report crime for a lot of reasons. Murders (homicides) though, are harder (but, not impossible) to hide, and are usually a better gauge of what kind of criminality an area has going. A rising murder rate, and falling rates for other crime, usually means someone is fudging the crime numbers (or even worse, that police response has become so lackluster that more and more victims are not even bothering to report it).

[nepal]

Originally Posted by moseriw

Which is, by all means, a blind lie. I live in Austria and get the Austrian an German news. We should offend a price to a criminal who is a true Austrian or German.

Most of them are from Nigeria, Somalia, Syria, Afganistan, Romania, Bulgaria, Serbia and not at least Turkey. Some of Poland and Czech too but rarely Austrians and Germans.

OK fact: in Great Britain do not live Brits any more but mostly asian an heck the hell everyone you can imagine out of former colonies.

And this is a situation that is causes by our polititians an the complete absence of their power of judement.

So PLEASE do not vote and these corrupt criminals have to give up.

Moseriw, do you realise that you're calling the statistics a lie, but you don't give the right numbers? Instead you start talking about nationalities !? This is not rational.

[double u]

Originally Posted by moseriw

Which is, by all means, a blind lie. I live in Austria and get the Austrian an German news. We should offend a price to a criminal who is a true Austrian or German.

Most of them are from Nigeria, Somalia, Syria, Afganistan, Romania, Bulgaria, Serbia and not at least Turkey. Some of Poland and Czech too but rarely Austrians and Germans.

OK fact: in Great Britain do not live Brits any more but mostly asian an heck the hell everyone you can imagine out of former colonies.

And this is a situation that is causes by our polititians an the complete absence of their power of judement.

So PLEASE do not vote and these corrupt criminals have to give up.

absolutely correct, the crime-rate of the Afghani-refugees in Austria is totally disproportionate to their numbers, particularly their rape rate (like 10x the Austrian "per capita rape rate"). The voices of the do-gooders & bleeding hearts at the hight of the "refugee-crises" in 2015 still ring in my ears: "...lawyers & doctors..." my foot. The most heineous crime of this year was perpetrated by 4 afghani "refugees" they drugged, gang-raped & murdered a 13 (yes thirteen) year old girl....& there still is talk that convicted Afghani criminal offenders should not be repatriated to Afghanistan....
(sorry, makes my blood boil!)
what did a tahitian immigration officer tell a friend of ours, who had some paperwork-deficiency in 1984: "We are not here to receive the garbage of humanity!"

[DavidMRea]

Originally Posted by nepal

Moseriw, do you realise that you're calling the statistics a lie, but you don't give the right numbers? Instead you start talking about nationalities !? This is not rational.

That's just weird. Where did all the Brits go? They're still here, believe me! Millions have come from elsewhere, but they're a minority. That's why we call them minorities...