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14-12-2019, 03:45
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Moderator and Certifiable Refitter
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Re: BREXIT
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Originally Posted by mikedefieslife
Have NZ forgiven us for collapsing their lamb industry overnight when we signed up to the EU and stopped importing from them?
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Dunno about the Kiwis but the UK will never see another Tassie apple ever....
Unless ya paying top dollar
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14-12-2019, 03:48
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#62
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Moderator

Join Date: Feb 2014
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Re: BREXIT
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Originally Posted by Wotname
Dunno about the Kiwis but the UK will never see another Tassie apple ever....
Unless ya paying top dollar 
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do you know how many types of apple we have here?
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14-12-2019, 03:52
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#63
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Moderator

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Re: BREXIT
If we're measuring by area, then Siberia means more than the US and Europe combined
UK is 66 million people, and the 5th largest economy in the world, and a nation for more than 1000 years. Comparison to Oregon is silly.
The EU is NOT indeed any kind of United States of Europe, even if some people hope that it will gradually become that, and the constituent nations of the EU are not much like US states.
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I behold from the beach your crooked inviting fingers,
I believe you refuse to go back without feeling of me;
We must have a turn together . . . . I undress . . . . hurry me out of sight of the land,
Cushion me soft . . . . rock me in billowy drowse,
Dash me with amorous wet . . . . I can repay you."
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14-12-2019, 03:53
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#64
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Moderator

Join Date: Feb 2014
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Re: BREXIT
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Originally Posted by Dockhead
If we're measuring by area, then Siberia means more than the US and Europe combined
UK is 66 million people, and the 5th largest economy in the world, and a nation for more than 1000 years. Comparison to Oregon is silly.
The EU is NOT indeed any kind of United States of Europe, even if some people hope that it will gradually become that, and the constituent nations of the EU are not much like US states.
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14-12-2019, 03:53
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#65
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Re: BREXIT
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Originally Posted by weavis
do you know how many types of apple we have here? 
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Well you can eat your **itty out of date cold storage ones or get proper in season ones from the southern climes.
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14-12-2019, 04:00
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#66
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Re: BREXIT
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Originally Posted by Wotname
Well you can eat your **itty out of date cold storage ones or get proper in season ones from the southern climes. 
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gosh.
Here is the british response...
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14-12-2019, 04:03
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#67
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Re: BREXIT
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Originally Posted by john61ct
and the UK continues to slide, .
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Continues to slide? Spent much time in the UK lately? Brits love to complain, but the UK is not sliding. The politics can be pretty ugly, but nothing compared to US politics. There are social problems but nothing like ours. The Nordic countries are better organized and run, have a better political culture, and have got more things right, but the UK is an awfully nice place. Not one of the American expats I know in the UK plans to ever go back; most haven taken British passports.
UK will be just fine out of the EU. I am fairly agnostic about Brexit myself, and Brexit certainly harms my business and my personal interests, but there are a lot of good reasons to do it. There are also good reasons to stay. Its a hard question, which should not have been solved in the way it was. But now finally there is clarity and a clear way forward. It will be OK.
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"You sea! I resign myself to you also . . . . I guess what you mean,
I behold from the beach your crooked inviting fingers,
I believe you refuse to go back without feeling of me;
We must have a turn together . . . . I undress . . . . hurry me out of sight of the land,
Cushion me soft . . . . rock me in billowy drowse,
Dash me with amorous wet . . . . I can repay you."
Walt Whitman
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14-12-2019, 04:07
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#68
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Re: BREXIT
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All men dream: but not equally. Those who dream by night in the dusty recesses of their minds wake in the day to find it was vanity: but the dreamers of the day are dangereous men, for they may act their dreams with open eyes, to make it possible. T.E. Lawrence
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14-12-2019, 04:07
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#69
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Re: BREXIT
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Originally Posted by weavis
... No country should ever fear to leave a union if it no longer suits them ...
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Including Scotland and Ireland?
Including the city of London?
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14-12-2019, 04:08
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#70
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Re: BREXIT
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Originally Posted by El Pinguino
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Iceland is a frozen foods supermarket chain in the UK
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14-12-2019, 04:08
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#71
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Re: BREXIT
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Originally Posted by GordMay
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I said not fear ... not that it will happen...
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10% of conflicts are due to different opinions. 90% by the tone of voice.
Raise your words, not your voice. It is rain that grows flowers, not thunder.
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14-12-2019, 04:20
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#72
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Seaman, Delivery skipper


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Re: BREXIT
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Originally Posted by Hartings
Brexit may well now be inevitable but there is a long,long way to go yet. I chuckle at the fact that the Brextremists on here appear to be those who have migrated to other EU countries. You couldn’t make it up.
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If you have to live in a system you did not vote for it would be stupid not to use it.. Don't you think.???
Not many expats are pro Brexit, most are shitting themselves needlessly.. 
As for a long, long way.. thats yet to be seen..
WTO is a possible fast track.. and in my view the best route else we'll be stalled for decades by the urine extractors in Brussels.
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14-12-2019, 04:40
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#73
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Re: BREXIT
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Originally Posted by Hawkeye118
So, can we get back to the original thread? I wanted to find out how people were going to deal with it.
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Oh that's easy. Since we have some 20,000 miles of superb coastline to explore just stay at home? If you must go abroad to stock up on booze, cheese and chocolates, 90 days will do nicely. There is only so much foreign food you can take before needing fish and chips, roast beef and real beer properly warmed.
Interesting times ahead I think, might even need to dig out my passport for foreign travel. Wonder if its still got the message from Her Maj' inside saying "requires and demands"
Pete
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14-12-2019, 04:50
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#74
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Re: BREXIT
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Originally Posted by Pete7
Oh that's easy. Since we have some 20,000 miles of superb coastline to explore just stay at home? If you must go abroad to stock up on booze, cheese and chocolates, 90 days will do nicely. There is only so much foreign food you can take before needing fish and chips, roast beef and real beer properly warmed.
Interesting times ahead I think, might even need to dig out my passport for foreign travel. Wonder if its still got the message from Her Maj' inside saying "requires and demands"
Pete
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The same way we Americans have. I spent 6 years in the Med and well it got interesting a few times as I counted days and you need to know who cares and who does not. As full time liveaboards I wintered over 2 years in Tunisia, 3 winters in Turkey and 1 winter in Israel. Just left Morocco and that would most definitely a possibility. Maybe the folks will have something worked out for you.
I saw one comment on health insurance, I don't carry any. I pay out of pocket but then again I am fairly healthy. But that does not mean I don't go to see docs as I do.
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14-12-2019, 05:15
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#75
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Senior Cruiser

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Re: BREXIT
Quote:
Originally Posted by weavis
Naah... NZ lamb is in the shops already. Its a case of sucking it up and making the best of a bad job. It was not a good move to forsake our NZ and Australian brethren...
I personally will make it up to them by eating as much lamb as I can........
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Thats great,so the uk gets to lose all the small scale beef and lamb farms when they can't compete with cheaper imports.
Then in turn the farms are bought up by property speculators for penny's on the pound,developed by tory speculators and their foreign backers,then resold as second homes for the wannabe landed gentry.
in the process putting tenants,impoverished owners and workers off the land that have now nowhere to live,due to the massive shortage of affordable housing in the uk,that has been engineered by wealthy (tory)speculators to keep rent's and property prices high.
perhaps this has been the plan all along
next will be bringing in 50,000 philipino "contract" nurses paid at less than the minimum wage and agricultural workers housed in labour camps
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