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Old 14-04-2017, 14:30   #16
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Re: Aftermarket Outfitting of a New Catamaran in Europe

I tried in Spain YIT in Spain, albeit I didn't do much homework, and I wasn't successful so I had to pay VAT on the cost of the goods, and the shipping. Still it was less expensive than buying in EU and shipping to my location.

I'm convinced YIT is a universal convention. Some shippers and customs agents are less than familiar with the procedures. The key is doing your homework.
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Old 24-06-2019, 19:11   #17
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I know this thread is a bit dated but we are purchasing a new boat - and after having perused EVERY single page of USHip - the EU West Marine from what I understand - the pricing is INSANE for anything not produced in the EU.
E.g. a Magma BBQ with cover and mounting (Euro converted) $1070 - WM/Defender $490
ICOM Handhelds w/GPS per ARC requirements - nearly double.
Much of the high $$ will go in the suitcase, but myself and a couple of friends purchasing from FP are going thinking of combining our shipment as YIT w/full manifests and even with 20%VAT + shipping (approx. 10% of the value) we are way ahead and it will be there rather than hunting around in a foreign country for gear!!
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Old 25-06-2019, 03:10   #18
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Re: Aftermarket Outfitting of a New Catamaran in Europe

Which Magma bbq is over $1000 in Europe?
Consider the custom limits and what may happen when you go over it before stuffing the suitcase.
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Old 25-06-2019, 08:27   #19
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Re: Aftermarket Outfitting of a New Catamaran in Europe

The Newport infrared with Cover, fishing rod holder and table
The Newport https://www.amazon.fr/Magma-Products-A10-918-2-GS-Newport-INOXYDABLE/dp/B00NCSUZHK/ref=sr_1_12?__mk_fr_FR=%C3%85M%C3%85%C5%BD%C3%95%C 3%91&keywords=magma+bbq&qid=1561475663&s=gateway&s r=8-12
660 E = $750 ------ $439 Defender https://www.defender.com/product3.jsp?path=-1|2276179|2276204|2276218|2276219&id=2691325
Balcon/table 104 E = $117 USHip --------$55 Defender
Montage porte-canne - fishing rod holder 132 E = $149 USHip ---------$65 Defender
Housse pour BBQ - Cover 115E = $130 USHip------------$46 Defender
$1146 vs $605 Defender --and that is without shopping around

I forgot about the table - but the numbers don't lie.
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Re: Aftermarket Outfitting of a New Catamaran in Europe

France without doubt.
If you plan to leave the EC within a year, you may even save the French VAT. You may do it yourself but it is complicated. Best to use help of local business/agent in Le Sable d'Olonne and document all purchases as for boat in transit. Then when leaving EC you clear everything through customs and the suspended VAT disappears. You may be asked to secure VAT payment on purchases for the case that you do not clear customs properly within a year.
BUT - even with VAT it is better to purchase everything on spot as many people already explained above.
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Re: Aftermarket Outfitting of a New Catamaran in Europe

If you do it right you get the VAT taken off at the source, and skip all the hassle at trying to claim it back. Thats how it worked for a few of us in Spain. Goods invoiced to your address outside of the EU VAT free, then delivered within the EU.
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Re: Aftermarket Outfitting of a New Catamaran in Europe

Dawntreader,
Well, not knowing what boat, nor where you're commissioning it, and especially not knowing exacting what "outfitting" you're desiring to do....means that we will just have to make some assumptions...

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In addition to the advice/thoughts about getting your VAT back....
Have you considered shipping some items to Gibraltar?? (or purchasing some in Gib?)
Gibraltar is of course VAT-free....and all yacht equipment brought in for non-EU boats is duty-free as well....
Yes, duty-free and VAT-free!!

I've done this myself....with NO issues at all....nobody needed to see any papers, never even asked for my vessel US documentation.... just looking/sounding like a US Citizen (who said he was picking up parts for my boat) was enough!

Although the Gibraltar Port Authority says: "All goods for non-Gibraltar registered vessels must be imported via a Customs clearing agent or ship's chandlers to qualify for duty-free status.", I didn't have a problem picking stuff up at the airport / Fed Ex terminal....(and neither did my friends have any issues either)...but, you may wish to inquire with FedEx, etc...
(I had a whole new traveler shipped from California, along with some tools...easy-peasy)

You may also want to check with Sheppard's, on what they can do for you in regards to prices...
https://www.sheppard.gi/chandlery

I'm not sure if you want to commission in France....bring equipment there to your boat (such as electronics, etc.)....or have you considered sailing to Gib and doing it there??
(I had some friends that did just that....they sailed from France to Gib on their new US documented boat, and did their outfitting there in Gib, at Marina Bay....and one guy across the dock from me, bought a new Raymarine radar and MFD, in Gib...drove in a car up to France....temporarily mounted radar scanner on bow pulpit, ran cable along the deck, and sailed down to Gib to finish his commissioning / outfitting...no BS, both true stories!)


I realize that Gib is about 1100 mile drive from New Rochelle, France....but, if you're looking to multi-task a bit, you can combine the "delivery" of your equipment to France, with a short "vacation"....a few days driving thru Spain and France might be nice!!

Btw, crossing from Gib to EU (Spain) via car, is pain-free....I wouldn't advertise that you're bring boat parts in, but I've never seen anyone ever stopped/questioned....


I do hope this helps...

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Re: Aftermarket Outfitting of a New Catamaran in Europe

I donít live in the US or EU and on most of my online shopping to ship to me I end up buying from the US. They certainly have the best prices even on EU made products for example Lewmar hatch parts and Raymarine equipment.

I think that manufacturers charge a lot for most extras.

When I bought my boat (not new) in the Seychelles the agent managed to deliver ALL my new electronics and solar etc to me at the marina cost free and I spend 2 days fitting everything to the boat including the solar panels so we could sail away fully kitted out.

I suppose it really depends on how many projects and what you want to do yourself and what you will need to get done.

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