The Reality of Living in Australia and Covid

[Alan Mighty]

VIC daily cases from 12 Jul to 5 Oct:

[JPA Cate]

@chrisr: Not our experience, but some places are okay if you can document you have had two jabs, according to grapevine. Which pub in Maclean was it?

However a lad of 15 who was in home quarantine (new arrival from Melbourne) went to an IGA up near Launceston for ciggies, and has tested positive, rode with a friend in a car, potentially infected everyone in the store, and all their contacts. Was reported last night, and the article was not somewhere I could find it this morning to link to

Kinda wonder if people die from this incident if he will be charged with negligent manslaughter.

Ann

[GILow]

Originally Posted by JPA Cate

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However a lad of 15 who was in home quarantine (new arrival from Melbourne) went to an IGA up near Launceston for ciggies, and has tested positive, rode with a friend in a car, potentially infected everyone in the store, and all their contacts. Was reported last night, and the article was not somewhere I could find it this morning to link to

Kinda wonder if people die from this incident if he will be charged with negligent manslaughter.

Ann

My usual views against corporal punishment are being tested:

COVID-positive teen in Launceston left home quarantine to visit an IGA
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-10-...-iga/100512692

You can bet this is going to come up when I eventually get to South Australia. I’m tempted to sail back and kick his arse from here to Christmas, selfish little sh-t. I hope he dies early from smoking.

[El Pinguino]

Originally Posted by GILow

My usual views against corporal punishment are being tested:

COVID-positive teen in Launceston left home quarantine to visit an IGA
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-10-...-iga/100512692

You can bet this is going to come up when I eventually get to South Australia. I’m tempted to sail back and kick his arse from here to Christmas, selfish little sh-t. I hope he dies early from smoking.

That's a trifle harsh.

He has however set the home quarantine trial back a bit.

I would suggest 'young and stupid' but how about this pair?

They have said they are very sorry - (because they were caught?).

https://www.rnz.co.nz/news/national/...fled-to-wanaka
https://www.stuff.co.nz/national/cri...usable-actions

I reckon a defrocking or whatever you do to lawyers but more likely a slap on the wrist which is the standard penalty for the rich.

[GILow]

Originally Posted by El Pinguino

That's a trifle harsh.



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I am sitting here being bounced around to sh-t at a mooring, I didn’t sleep last night because I had to maintain an active watch if the mooring (which is way under nourished for a boat of this size) failed to hold me. It will be close to 36 hours without sleep before the wind drops. I have to be in reach of the wheel and the engine key at all times, I’m only meters from the boats down-wind of me.

I could be a selfish pri-ck like this little self-entitled turnip and move the boat to the marina, but no, I choose to do the right thing. I made a choice and I stuck to the rules of that choice.

And yet, there is a good chance this little f—cker will force me into a week of quarantine on my boat when I eventually make it to South Australia and thus mean I don’t get to give my son one last hug before he heads to Royal Military College Duntroon at the ripe old age of 19.

So no, it’s not a trifle harsh to expect the little princess to suck up a few days of comfortable quarantine at home, conditions he accepted to be able return to Tasmania. A place that is one of the last few places of safety for the medically vulnerable.

I have no respect for losers like this. I would kick his arse HARD if I had the opportunity.

P.S. I hope they give my son command of a tank platoon and he can come and finish the job for me.

[chrisr]

Originally Posted by JPA Cate

@chrisr: Not our experience, but some places are okay if you can document you have had two jabs, according to grapevine. Which pub in Maclean was it?

Ann

there is only one these days (the maclean hotel) which may account for the attitude

we needed to prove a home address outside of a lockdown area - nothing else accepted. difficult when you have NO home address...

cheers,

[chrisr]

Originally Posted by GILow

On the upside, I never go to pubs anyway, so I don't have that particular problem.

ahhh...now THAT explains a lot

cheers,

[GILow]

Originally Posted by chrisr

ahhh...now THAT explains a lot



cheers,

Monohull sailors, we are a dry old bunch. It’s hard enough to stand upright when you are sober.

[El Pinguino]

Originally Posted by Alan Mighty

VIC daily cases from 12 Jul to 5 Oct:

I think this is more important - esp when combined with the daily and total cases.
https://www.health.gov.au/resources/...are-units-icus
Compared with last year deaths in Victoria are staying very low at about 4 or 5 a day - and no they aren't 'people who were going to die tomorrow anyway' as someone here once suggested.

Likewise percentage of cases hospitalised and percentage in ICU remains small which tells me vaccination is doing its job. I think in the last 80 or so days we have had 23,000 cases in Victoria.
https://www.theguardian.com/australi...ths-death-toll

[El Pinguino]

Originally Posted by El Pinguino

I think this is more important - esp when combined with the daily and total cases..........

14300 cases currently active in Victoria.

[Seaworthy Lass]

Originally Posted by El Pinguino

I think this is more important - esp when combined with the daily and total cases.
https://www.health.gov.au/resources/...are-units-icus
Compared with last year deaths in Victoria are staying very low at about 4 or 5 a day - and no they aren't 'people who were going to die tomorrow anyway' as someone here once suggested.

Likewise percentage of cases hospitalised and percentage in ICU remains small which tells me vaccination is doing its job. I think in the last 80 or so days we have had 23,000 cases in Victoria.
https://www.theguardian.com/australi...ths-death-toll

Hi Ping
Have you found a link to hospitalisations by age? Australia does not seem to be making this data available.

Deaths are thankfully low this year, reflecting the vaccination of those at high risk. Total reported is around 1307, but over 1000 of these were last year (most for nursing home residents then).

This gives the breakdown of cases and deaths by age and sex (3 images attached):
https://www.health.gov.au/news/healt...and-statistics

Despite the media hype, although cases are being driven by the young, very few deaths are occurring in the younger age groups.
eg From a total of 1307, only 2 females and 6 males under the age of 30 have died. Co-morbidities are not listed, but if Australia is following the trend elsewhere, these cases tend to have other severe illnesses.

SWL

Cases and deaths by age and sex, plus a table of the actual figures for the latter:

[El Pinguino]

Hospitalisation by age is out there , saw it the other day, just a matter of finding it.

There are plenty of people out there - down into their 40s or 50s - with co-morbidities who will probably have many good years ahead of them if young people don't bring covid into their homes and kill them.

98.1% of people in education in Victoria are vaccinated. Two people are taking the government to court.

Year 12 students are choosing to study at home rather than risk covid at school
https://www.theage.com.au/national/v...04-p58x13.html

While others are diving under the doona
https://www.theage.com.au/national/v...05-p58xdt.html

[HankOnthewater]

HI SWL, no I am not aware that numbers of the hospitalisations are published by age group. Hmm in theory I could have access to that, but would not allowed to share that.
In early August, NSW published those numbers, but only for a few weeks.

You are right, the death rate of active cases is a lot lower this time compared with this time last year, about a factor of 4.
It could well be that the elderly now has been largely vaccinated and last year no one was.

Note, the cause of death is a mute issue. For instance a patient dies when they have covid, but has also multiple comorbidities... was the covid the actual cause of death or just a contributing factor?
Therefore we must remain cautious in interpreting the number of deaths.

I do not use the numbers of death my overviews.

[El Pinguino]

In some states numbers hospitalised are a non sense . It seems that anyone who contracts Covid in Qlnd or NT goes into hospital regardless of severity.

[Seaworthy Lass]

Originally Posted by El Pinguino

In some states numbers hospitalised are a non sense . It seems that anyone who contracts Covid in Qlnd or NT goes into hospital regardless of severity.

It is really hard to get a good grip of the situation!
I have heard the same about very young children hospitalised in the UK.

SWL