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RaymondR · 21-09-2021, 00:29

It's going to get very interesting, a left wing government versus a bunch of left wing unions. The CMMFEU are some of the most militant and aggressive unions in the country.

**Wotname** · 21-09-2021, 00:29

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Originally Posted by Simi 60

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As I said, interesting headline.

The ABC called them man babies.
I still like rat lickers.

Crikey, it's a tough call which is a better moniker; I reckon I'll use either as the situation demands

SV DINGO · 21-09-2021, 00:30

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Originally Posted by Simi 60

Yet that is exactly what you are doing by saying the rat lickers should be allowed to run riot amongst those that are doing the right thing.

Change your tone and we can discuss this but using derogatory words just makes you a foul.

People are not rats , i thought we have grown up and understand that tolerance is acceptable.

Simi 60 · 21-09-2021, 00:36

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Originally Posted by SV DINGO

Change your tone and we can discuss this but using derogatory words just makes you a foul.

People are not rats , i thought we have grown up and understand that tolerance is acceptable.

I never said they were rats.
I said they were rat lickers.
See the difference?

Now where is that example to support your earlier claim?

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Originally Posted by SV DINGO

To make a non mandatory vaccine indirectly mandatory to be able to keep working in your profession is just the taktics the nazis employed yes..

SV DINGO · 21-09-2021, 00:39

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Originally Posted by RaymondR

It's going to get very interesting, a left wing government versus a bunch of left wing unions. The CMMFEU are some of the most militant and aggressive unions in the country.

The CFMEU is a disgrace and gives all othger Unions a bad name. Their leaders are outright corrupt and militant and i am not so sure what the end game is here but dont be fouled that a Liberal Government in Canberra would love to declare a Union unlawful and disolve it so lets see whether the CFMEU has sold out there members or in fact is getting sold out themselves.

Give someone a shovel and tell them to dig , they might be digging their own grave.

SV DINGO · 21-09-2021, 00:42

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Originally Posted by Simi 60

I never said they were rats.
I said they were rat lickers.
See the difference?

Now where is that example to support your earlier claim?

Which claim? mandatory?

If you refer to that , no jab no job makes it mandatory wouldnt you say that??

tanngrisnir · 21-09-2021, 00:44

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Originally Posted by Simi 60

It's an actual real life pandemic, not Logan's Run or Soylent Green

I loved that movie. You missed "The Omega Man", that comes after, all of us sheeple become the zombies or something then Charlton Heston guns us down.

Reality check, even if you double the protester number estimates they represent less than 1/50th of 1% (0.02%) of the population of Victoria. Discounting the professional agitators that would still only be 0.44% of the construction industry workforce of 300,000. Not really representative of what the community here thinks.

The rest of Melbourne are embracing the new goal, we get that the only thing that will get us out of this nightmare is reaching the vaccination goals. It is really encouraging seeing the young and even the older, vaccine hesitant, getting their shots and moving us closer to that date.

Keep an eye out for Bunnings Karen on the news, she has been out with the rest of the wack jobs the last few days.

**Wotname** · 21-09-2021, 00:46

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Originally Posted by Simi 60

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Who made it mandatory to wear fluoro vests, hardhats, steel capped boots, safety glasses, not step past the magical yellow line and the list goes on.

These "safety" rules were accepted as part of the conditions to work, did anyone question them or have a big cry about it?
Why not this one, get a vaccine and wear a mask or don't work.

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Most of the worksite safety requirements were introduced to prevents deaths and serious injuries occurring on construction and mining worksites. Unsurprisingly they worked even if they are pain in the backside at times. Deaths and serious injuries were reduced. There were (are?) dangers in working in these environments.

Along comes Covid 19, a novel virus and it causes deaths and serious illness for some. If your workplace has to protect the workers and visitors from actions that cause death or injury, it stands to reason, the employer has to protect the workers and visitors from Covid.

As for putting stuff into my body, in the past my employer(s) insisted I refrain from ingesting certain substances or get another job. I guess vax is the other side of the same coin.

**Wotname** · 21-09-2021, 00:52

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Originally Posted by Alan Mighty

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Australia has had Yersina cases in the past. Unlike the US, wild or native animals do not sustain a population of the bacterium.

Last occurring in the 1920 according to https://www.health.qld.gov.au/cdcg/index/plague

**Wotname** · 21-09-2021, 01:06

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Originally Posted by Alan Mighty

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In Australia, theoretically almost all citizens over 18 years age have registered to vote and are legally required to attend a polling place at election time (or make a gesture at lodging a vote by other means). The proportion of the population that is disengaged from the voting process and politics has risen dramatically in recent decades.
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I always thought so but recently I discovered the following interesting snippet -

Itinerant workers and the homeless do not have to attend a polling place at election times but they do have to be enrolled as such on the electoral roll. However they can (apparently) vote if they wish but I dunno how they are allocated to an electorate.

There are some differing requirements for state elections in SA and WA. More info here https://www.aec.gov.au/Enrolling_to_...ed-address.htm

This may apply for some live a-boards, who knew

Van Der Beek · 21-09-2021, 01:22

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Originally Posted by SV DINGO

Easy to always blame evrything on Right wing nazis.

Why dont we want to accept that some people might just simply dissagree with the vaccination.

To make a non mandatory vaccine indirectly mandatory to be able to keep working in your profession is just the taktics the nazis employed yes. So who are the Nazis?

This is what happens to lots of people after they've been subjected to fear mongering and told that there's an existential threat out there. They become irrational and authoritarian. Irrational to the point they view fellow human beings as a biological threat, and authoritarian to the point they would be happy to see people force vaccinated, or have government visit proxy violence upon parts of the population they deemed to be a threat. We saw what happened in Communist Russia, and what happened in Germany during National Socialist rule, with people doing rather evil things thinking they are doing good things.

All this gaslighting insanity makes people crazy because all they hear is this contradictory nonsense all the time, it ****s with their head.

Meanwhile.
CDC has stated that the vaccine does NOT prevent transmission, and it doesn't provide much, if any, protection, in part because the virus keeps mutating. So then the question becomes: What does it matter if someone IS or is NOT vaccinated then?

Someone wants take the vaccine? Great, someone doesn't? Also great. If those who sold 'you' the vaccine aren't grifters selling you a placebo you'll be protected...against those who didn't take it. Someone wants to wear a mask? Great, someone doesn't? Also great. If the masks work (not that they really are proper masks in the first place) the wearer will be protected against those that don't wear them.

Wearing a mask weakens the immune system. The lungs are an extratory organ, they want your body to expel certain pathogens, bacteria etc. If you put a mask on you are rebreathing those. But It's good for ya, because it keeps the virus away.

The virus has a 99,8% survival rate anyway and since we're 18 months into this, pardon my French, cluster ****, chances are most of us had it already with mild to no symptoms at all.

Just look at the third-world. No social distancing, no masks, no vaccinations, poor diets, bad health care etc. Heck, they should be all but wiped out by now. But they're not.

With all the crazy measures taken someone could be forgiven for thinking it was the Spanish Flu.

El Pinguino · 21-09-2021, 01:30

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Originally Posted by Van Der Beek

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The virus has a 99,8% survival rate anyway and since we're 18 months into this, pardon my French, cluster ****, chances are most of us had it already with mild to no symptoms at all.

With all the crazy measures taken someone could be forgiven for thinking it was the Spanish Flu.

It is most unlikely that 'most of us' in Australia have already had covid.

Did someone mention the Spanish Flu?

https://www.theage.com.au/world/nort...21-p58tcw.html

SV DINGO · 21-09-2021, 01:42

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Originally Posted by El Pinguino

It is most unlikely that 'most of us' in Australia have already had covid.

Did someone mention the Spanish Flu?

https://www.theage.com.au/world/nort...21-p58tcw.html

Yes this time i can agree with you BUT is it a good thing that we have shut off the island so well?

Will it bite us now?

Van Der Beek · 21-09-2021, 01:43

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Originally Posted by El Pinguino

It is most unlikely that 'most of us' in Australia have already had covid.

Did someone mention the Spanish Flu?

https://www.theage.com.au/world/nort...21-p58tcw.html

The Spanish Flu killed between 50 000 000 and 100 000 000.

Also, the population was far less back in the day.

Lockdown? Look, if you want to lockdown you can do that, just understand that the lockdowns will never end. They can go on forever. "Oh we had one case, lockdown!" etc.

People are now dying because of all these lockdowns, financial problems, mental health problems, losing their social life, losing their jobs, their businesses, can't see family members, can't go to a loved ones funeral, children can't go to school etc.