The Reality of Living in Australia and Covid

[Jim Cate]

Have the Aussie bashers not noticed that while the population of the USA is roughly ten times that of Oz, their infection numbers (of Covid) are over one hundred times as great?

I agree that the Aussie response has not been perfect, but it has been fairly successful compared to that of the USA and many other places as well.

I'm happy to be here, especially in Tasmania where the infection rate is really low. If that makes me a "sheeple", so be it... and bash away to your heart's content.

Jim

[fousley]

Originally Posted by mjgill1

Rounds last night confirmed 50/50 split between those who took the shot and not. Interestingly, at this time there is no difference in presenting symptoms among the majority of patients. About 99% of both groups have comorbidities.

With regard to the superior immunity question, I'll just say that this is not a revelation. It's always been this way and it likely will always be. If you didn't know this previously, now is your opportunity to gain a bit of wisdom.

Rounds where? Why isn't it relevant? You make broad statements that are vague with nothing to back them up.

[GILow]

So... just to clarify, someone is complaining of a nose bleed?

And not dying of Covid....

Yep, I can see how that’s a problem.

I’m not thrilled by all aspects of Australia’s response to this pandemic but I am sure am happy about how all the people I love are not dead from Covid.

On balance, I’ll take the nose-bleed risk.

For my last test I asked if they could go a bit further in with the cotton bud and do my ears for me at the same time. They laughed... but then considered it. I’ll be a bit more careful with my humour next time.

[El Pinguino]

Originally Posted by GILow

So... just to clarify, someone is complaining of a nose bleed?

And not dying of Covid....

Yep, I can see how that’s a problem.

I’m not thrilled by all aspects of Australia’s response to this pandemic but I am sure am happy about how all the people I love are not dead from Covid.

On balance, I’ll take the nose-bleed risk.

For my last test I asked if they could go a bit further in with the cotton bud and do my ears for me at the same time. They laughed... but then considered it. I’ll be a bit more careful with my humour next time.

I had the swab so that I could fly to NZ last month - it tickled .

The WA rules here https://www.wa.gov.au/organisation/c...lled-border#lr
Not sure what the status of the NT was last week.

[UFO]

Originally Posted by JPA Cate

Well, don't be surprised. It was ever thus. In 1949, Jean-Baptiste Alphonse Karr wrote, plus ça change, plus c'est la même chose [that word "ca, should have a cedilla on it, but beyond my computer skills to get it there]. It means "the more change, the more it is the same thing."

It also means if we boot out the present thugs, the new thugs may be worse, even if they seem better at the time.

Ann

That about sums up the political systems of the world

[UFO]

Originally Posted by Jim Cate

Have the Aussie bashers not noticed that while the population of the USA is roughly ten times that of Oz, their infection numbers (of Covid) are over one hundred times as great?

I agree that the Aussie response has not been perfect, but it has been fairly successful compared to that of the USA and many other places as well.

I'm happy to be here, especially in Tasmania where the infection rate is really low. If that makes me a "sheeple", so be it... and bash away to your heart's content.

Jim

The trouble is there needs to be an exit plan, still making healthy vaccinated people self isolate for 6 days because they have gone with a zero covid case policy, to me and to a lot of the businesses and individuals effected by the lock-downs is quite unacceptable.


You should maybe talk to some people from Melbourne - Lots of people there have lost businesses, jobs or knows someone who has - These sort of policies are not sustainable!

[tanngrisnir]

Originally Posted by UFO

You should maybe talk to some people from Melbourne - Lots of people there have lost businesses, jobs or knows someone who has - These sort of policies are not sustainable!

Well, now that you asked, no one here is loving it, but we have knocked it down 5 times already and really appreciate the time we haven't been in lock-down.


It's frustrating that we have had 4 lock-downs as a result of leakage from elsewhere.


At the end of the day, we know that we can crush it again and buy the time we need to get the vax rate up so we can open up. Opening up before we have that is just stupid and would make the last 18 months kind of pointless. We are staying the course.

[RaymondR]

Originally Posted by Wotname

Well I know that RayR really knows what this means in Aussie speak as he ain't a dumb Aussie.

However for others further afield who aren't up with the lingo down under, allow me to explain 'cause it does sound like hogwash at the first glance.

Put simply, there isn't any point in going to a bar if you are required to wear a mask and keep it on, we know that so why say it.

It is Aussie pollie code for -

Nah, I think he was serious and am expecting to see advertisements for masks with a little rubber orifice in them to push the straw through. He's the lock down king of the nation so you have to take him at his word. I'm fairly certain that once the masks with orifice become available he'll put everyone in the state on a diet of soup so no one has any excuse for taking them off at all.

[JPA Cate]

Sending a link to the song to a muso friend in the US. Wouldn't it be cool if it takes off there!?

Zoom conferencing pop music comes into its own. Woo hoo!

Ann

[HankOnthewater]

I only read previously one covid thread. And this one only because I know the OP.
I think the answer was giving by Simi in post #37. Turnaround times of a covid swab from arriving in the lab to result (that is without travel) varies from 8 hours to 24 hours. In Perth (your neck of the woods) the largest labs are pathwest and clinipath, and both are in the lower end of this range. And in Melbourne, where I am at the moment, with the lockdown in place and escalated testing, the turnaround is still well below 24 hours with most labs.

I think there is no reason for me to read posts ever again on Covid on this forum. Mostly opinions. For that reason, I agree with the some previous posters, that promote closing down or even deleting this thread, it would be no loss.

BTW I work 6 or 7 days a week, 10-14 hours a day with covid related issues and people. Because of that, I have no time for sailing
Just now and then I look at CF to distract myself from covid issues. Funny world

[goboatingnow]

Originally Posted by HankOnthewater

I only read previously one covid thread. And this one only because I know the OP.

I think the answer was giving by Simi in post #37. Turnaround times of a covid swab from arriving in the lab to result (that is without travel) varies from 8 hours to 24 hours. In Perth (your neck of the woods) the largest labs are pathwest and clinipath, and both are in the lower end of this range. And in Melbourne, where I am at the moment, with the lockdown in place and escalated testing, the turnaround is still well below 24 hours with most labs.



I think there is no reason for me to read posts ever again on Covid on this forum. Mostly opinions. For that reason, I agree with the some previous posters, that promote closing down or even deleting this thread, it would be no loss.



BTW I work 6 or 7 days a week, 10-14 hours a day with covid related issues and people. Because of that, I have no time for sailing

Just now and then I look at CF to distract myself from covid issues. Funny world

I went to a chemist in a city nearby ( 50,000 pop ) he had a pcr machine. Results back in two hours

[El Pinguino]

So - UFO - you are against border closures and quarantine and you are also against lockdowns.

Hmmm.

You have a choice, either go with the former and hopefully avoid the latter or ignore the former and live with the latter.

[HankOnthewater]

Originally Posted by goboatingnow

I went to a chemist in a city nearby ( 50,000 pop ) he had a pcr machine. Results back in two hours

Indeed there is rapid PCR test, result takes 45 minutes on the machine, but often it is data entering, client details matching etc, that takes more time than the PCR testing itself. Nearly all hospitals here have such capability.

Smart people purchased shares in pharmaceutical companies back in Feb last year. Very smart people invested in pathology labs.

[goboatingnow]

Originally Posted by HankOnthewater

Indeed there is rapid PCR test, result takes 45 minutes on the machine, but often it is data entering, client details matching etc, that takes more time than the PCR testing itself. Nearly all hospitals here have such capability.



Smart people purchased shares in pharmaceutical companies back in Feb last year. Very smart people invested in pathology labs.

Well as I sad , I got the test emailed within 2 hours with passport details etc. Worked fine to get into several countries

( don’t need it any more within the EU )

[El Pinguino]

Originally Posted by HankOnthewater

Indeed there is rapid PCR test, result takes 45 minutes on the machine, but often it is data entering, client details matching etc, that takes more time than the PCR testing itself. Nearly all hospitals here have such capability.

Smart people purchased shares in pharmaceutical companies back in Feb last year. Very smart people invested in pathology labs.

And the really really smart went sailing

Quoting Maxwell Smart - 'I missed by that much' .. a matter of weeks